Any Kamasan experts here?

103841 · Mar 1, 2017

I use the Kamasan B983 for a lot of my fishing, I'd like exactly the same hook with a spade end as opposed to the eyed I already have, a bit of a minefield attempting to go through the various Kamasan range, does anybody know if there is a spade end alternative?

maggot_dangler · Mar 1, 2017

Hi .

Have you looked at the B640 ....

PG ...

rayner · Mar 2, 2017

I use a lot of eyed hooks and tie them knotless, have you tried this. At least then you'll have an hook you're happy with.

bracket · Mar 2, 2017

S63. If you are happy with the hook but not tying it through the eye, ignore the fact it is an eyed hook and tie it as a spade hook. I have done this in the past to no detriment. Pete.

103841 · Mar 2, 2017

Thanks for all of the advice, not the reason for wanting an identical hook in spade end but one of the downsides I find with an eyed is the inability to use a disgorger successfully. I also like to bury the hook completely when using casters, for this I find a spade end better.

I've opted for the B560 which looks a close match.

thames mudlarker · Mar 2, 2017

Hi mate,

I personally only ever use spade hooks, I don't like eyed hooks because I feel that the spade end hooks give a much better presentation over eyed hooks :thumbs:

one of me favourite kamasan spade paterns is the b520

I use the b520 for all of me maggot and caster fishing as these are a light weight maggot hook,

I noticed that you mentioned the b560 hooks , these are actually my no: 1 hook for when fishing the punch or in larger sizes when using bread flake,
These 560 hooks are a light weight wide gape patern and are perfect for when using the bread.

rayner · Mar 3, 2017

s63 said:
Thanks for all of the advice, not the reason for wanting an identical hook in spade end but one of the downsides I find with an eyed is the inability to use a disgorger successfully. I also like to bury the hook completely when using casters, for this I find a spade end better.

I've opted for the B560 which looks a close match.

If I wanted an hook for caster I would go for Tubertini or Gammakatsu.

tigger · Mar 3, 2017

I use the animals, they're spade ends and pretty wide gaped.
Failing that take a look at drennan super spades and their other hooks.

thames mudlarker · Mar 3, 2017

rayner said:
If I wanted an hook for caster I would go for Tubertini or Gammakatsu.

Yep I absolutely agree, I also use the Tubertini range aswell, brilliant hooks :thumbs:

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tigger said:
I use the animals, they're spade ends and pretty wide gaped.
Failing that take a look at drennan super spades and their other hooks.

Animals are ok Ian as being a strong patterned hook but I personally don't like the bright shiny nickell finish on em especially if I were fishing in shallow clear water.

tigger · Mar 3, 2017

thames mudlarker said:
Animals are ok Ian as being a strong patterned hook but I personally don't like the bright shiny nickell finish on em especially if I were fishing in shallow clear water.

Yeah TM, I get that bud and when a m8 of mine gave me one to try over a decade ago I thought the exact same thing as you. I imagined the shinny metal would put fish off but i'e found it doesn't, infact I think it may work the opposite way as I catch ok with them. It's easy enough to bury them into your bait anyhow and very often my hooks are invisible as I always fill 'em to the extreme

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Forgot to say my other favorite hooks are drennan super spades and they're a dull'ish colour.

rayner · Mar 3, 2017

tigger said:
Yeah TM, I get that bud and when a m8 of mine gave me one to try over a decade ago I thought the exact same thing as you. I imagined the shinny metal would put fish off but i'e found it doesn't, infact I think it may work the opposite way as I catch ok with them. It's easy enough to bury them into your bait anyhow and very often my hooks are invisible as I always fill 'em to the extreme .

Forgot to say my other favorite hooks are drennan super spades and they're a dull'ish colour.

Shiny hooks work very well when hemp fishing. I use Tubertini series 18 for hemp, they're a pale bronze hook with a shiny finish. I keep the fact they have a micro barb quiet because commercial owners/bailiffs are funny about barbs.

thames mudlarker · Mar 3, 2017

tigger said:
Yeah TM, I get that bud and when a m8 of mine gave me one to try over a decade ago I thought the exact same thing as you. I imagined the shinny metal would put fish off but i'e found it doesn't, infact I think it may work the opposite way as I catch ok with them. It's easy enough to bury them into your bait anyhow and very often my hooks are invisible as I always fill 'em to the extreme .

Forgot to say my other favorite hooks are drennan super spades and they're a dull'ish colour.

Yea Ian I suppose that there could actually be some truth there,

It's just something that has been stuck in me head for years

Maybe time to give em a trial and this could also mean the Kammasan b611 hooks as well

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rayner said:
Shiny hooks work very well when hemp fishing. I use Tubertini series 18 for hemp, they're a pale bronze hook with a shiny finish. I keep the fact they have a micro barb quiet because commercial owners/bailiffs are funny about barbs.

Oh yea mate I quite agree with yer as virtually all of me hooks are bronze,

I was more so on about the nickell hooks that look like a bright shiny silver hook,

But as Ian has stated that he's had no problem with em so I may give these nickell hooks another trial, I suppose it's just a confidence thing really

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