Spliced tip rod

mikench · Oct 21, 2018

What, if anything, is inherently wrong with using such a rod on a Stillwater? Apart from a current( I avoided the word flow as many stillwaters do have a pronounced flow) what is the difference in rivers and lakes that determine which rods are suitable and which are not?

kenpm · Oct 21, 2018

Spliced tip rods came about because in the early days of carbon rods they could not manufacture hollow tips fine enough to give the correct action that people wanted. The most popular and best of these rods at the time was the Shakespeare President,they were used for all forms of fishing in lakes and rivers but then as carbon technology developed hollow tipped rods could be made fine enough and the spliced tips lost favour.
The only drawback with a properly built spliced tip rod is line wrap caused by tip wobble due to the tip being so fine it tends to bounce a bit when you hold the rod and unhook fish or bait up,you reduce this by keeping some tension on the line at all times which is good practice anyway.
I still use a spliced tip Shakespeare Boron from time to time which is a superb rod nearly 40 years old.

tigger · Oct 21, 2018

mikench said:
What, if anything, is inherently wrong with using such a rod on a Stillwater? Apart from a current( I avoided the word flow as many stillwaters do have a pronounced flow) what is the difference in rivers and lakes that determine which rods are suitable and which are not?

Nothing Mike.

sam vimes · Oct 21, 2018

mikench said:
What, if anything, is inherently wrong with using such a rod on a Stillwater? Apart from a current( I avoided the word flow as many stillwaters do have a pronounced flow) what is the difference in rivers and lakes that determine which rods are suitable and which are not?

It depends entirely on the spliced tip rod in question. Just because a rod has a spliced tip does not mean that they all share the same kind of action. There are spliced tip rods out there that are intended for (light) waggler work on still and very gently flowing waters (Browning Sphere Hotrods, various Tricast canal rods, old Daiwa 12' canal rods etc). However, the bulk of spliced tip rods have much faster actions and are/were intended for trotting on proper flowing water. The differences between the two types should come down to the speed of the action and can sometimes be hinted at in the length of the splice. The light waggler/canal types I've seen generally have a proportionally longer spliced section which gives a more through action than a typical spliced tip trotting rod.

There's nothing stopping anyone using a spliced tip trotting rod for stillwater waggler fishing. However, it probably won't cast a decent sized waggler anywhere near as well as a more through actioned waggler rod. Trying to launch a reasonably big waggler any distance may even put the delicate splice in peril of breakage. They definitely aren't intended for big overhead chucks with heavier floats.

mikench · Oct 21, 2018

Cheers chaps! The only spliced tip rod I have , to my knowledge, is my tricast John Allerton which apart from a brief foray on a river has only ever seen a Stillwater ! It has handled carp,tench, roach and bream without any difficulty and cast a light waggler as far as I wanted to cast it!

Is the acolyte plus a spliced tip?

sam vimes · Oct 21, 2018

mikench said:
Is the acolyte plus a spliced tip?

No, just a bit faster actioned than a typical waggler rod.

tigger · Oct 21, 2018

mikench said:
Cheers chaps! The only spliced tip rod I have , to my knowledge, is my tricast John Allerton which apart from a brief foray on a river has only ever seen a Stillwater ! It has handled carp,tench, roach and bream without any difficulty and cast a light waggler as far as I wanted to cast it!

Is the acolyte plus a spliced tip?

The acolyte isn't spliced Mike, although it does have a nice fast action (it feels fast to me)for striking and mending line etc when using it on the river.
What's in the pipeline to bring this line of conversation up :eyebrows: .

mikench · Oct 21, 2018

All will be revealed , eventually!

I am doing a Dr Who!!!!!

103841 · Oct 21, 2018

mikench said:
All will be revealed , eventually! I am doing a Dr Who!!!!!

So that would be a transgender angler thread then.

mikench · Oct 21, 2018

I might wish to identify as Dorothy today!!!! The world is crackers!!! Back on post I meant a rod from yesteryear!

tigger · Oct 21, 2018

mikench said:
I might wish to identify as Dorothy today!!!! The world is crackers!!! Back on post I meant a rod from yesteryear!

What is it then?

mikench · Oct 21, 2018

I may not get it ! Amorphous whisker connoisseur tournament tom Pickering something or other ! It needs to be 13' to fit the name on!

tigger · Oct 21, 2018

mikench said:
I may not get it ! Amorphous whisker connoisseur tournament tom Pickering something or other ! It needs to be 13' to fit the name on!

Nice rods Mike!
Is it the stick or waggler version?

flightliner · Oct 21, 2018

mikench said:
It needs to be 13' to fit the name on!

You can get war and peace on some Drennan rods !

mikench · Oct 22, 2018

tigger said:
Is it the stick or waggler version?

It's the light waggler version I'm after but either will do! I bet You have a few in your collection Ian!!

What was the main difference between the whisker rods and the amorphous whisker rods?

sam vimes · Oct 22, 2018

mikench said:
It's the light waggler version I'm after

Good luck, I spent over a year looking for one of the Light versions of the Daiwa match rods. They were out there occasionally, but they were either too knackered or far too expensive (or a nasty combination of both) for me.

I tried more than the odd alternative in a similar vein. The ones I'm actually using now, depending on the exact circumstance, are a Normark Microlite, Browning Sphere Hotrods and Drennan Acolyte Ultras.

tigger · Oct 22, 2018

mikench said:
It's the light waggler version I'm after but either will do! I bet You have a few in your collection Ian!!

What was the main difference between the whisker rods and the amorphous whisker rods?

The amorphous where 24 strand carbon and the amorphous whiskers where 12 strand.
I have sent you a PM about some amorphous tournaments....you got it?

markcw · Oct 22, 2018

mikench said:
It's the light waggler version I'm after but either will do! I bet You have a few in your collection Ian!!

What was the main difference between the whisker rods and the amorphous whisker rods?

Have you tried the Tackle Exchange website Mike ? It sometimes has one or two on , the price fluctuates

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