squat

John Keane

Well-known member
Joined
Dec 28, 2017
Messages
3,196
Reaction score
10
Location
North West
Shouldn’t that be “squatt”.

I read it, dutifully crouched down on my haunches, then couldn’t bloody well get back up!
 

Keith M

Well-known member
Joined
Oct 1, 2002
Messages
6,193
Reaction score
5,086
Location
Hertfordshire
They don’t keep as long as maggots and pinkies and I would be surprised if they lasted over a week even in a fridge.

When you buy them from a tackle shop they are normally sold in brick dust/grit which helps clean and make them sink a little faster; however the night before I use mine I sieve all of the brick dust from them and place a slice of milk soaked bread on top of them; for them to eat; and put them back in the fridge; and overnight they turn into plumper and more lively squatt which also sink well.

Because they are a lot smaller than pinkies or maggots I usually only use squatt as loosefeed or in groundbait while using pinkies (or maggot) on the hook.

In hard winter matches on the Grand Union canal along the south Watford to Hemel Hempstead areas they often used to be godsends and I used to win or get placed in quite a few very hard winter club matches using squatt, usually using them as loosefeed but very occasionally on the hook.

Keith
 
Last edited:

mikench

Well-known member
Joined
Nov 1, 2015
Messages
27,426
Reaction score
17,791
Location
leafy cheshire
If they are smaller than pinkies they are not for me! Pinkies are escape artists par excellence!!!
 
Last edited:

108831

Well-known member
Joined
May 11, 2017
Messages
8,761
Reaction score
4,193
Squatts are not so expert Mike,but pinkies,they're a different story...lol.
 
Last edited:

nottskev

Well-known member
Joined
Nov 3, 2016
Messages
5,903
Reaction score
7,914
Squatts are docile home-loving creatures, Mike. Nothing like the escapologist pinkies.

Never mind how to keep them - where do you get them these days?

In my first 10 years of fishing - nearly always on canals - I didn't feel equipped without squatts.
I can think of a few places I'd like to try them on in winter - if they were available. Even my local - large and well-known - tackle shop only gets them to order and then with some difficulty.
 

Keith M

Well-known member
Joined
Oct 1, 2002
Messages
6,193
Reaction score
5,086
Location
Hertfordshire
Squatts are docile home-loving creatures, Mike. Nothing like the escapologist Pinkies

I read that squatts are the larvae of the little house fly (Fannia canicularis) which are smaller than the common house fly (Musca domestica).


I think I had them escaping from my ‘gardening & food’ waste bin a few weeks ago, although it’s highly possible that they were maggots from the common housefly.

Keith
 
Last edited:

markcw

Exiled Northerner
Joined
Sep 22, 2017
Messages
12,915
Reaction score
11,330
Location
Oxford, and occasionally Warrington Lancs
leave an empty tin of dogfood with the lid more or less closed on it in a sheltered place in the garden>
check after a few days to see if there is a "blow" inside it, It there is after a while if you are lucky and the right fly has laid the eggs, you will have some squatts. As for using them in the winter, I remember going down to 0.08 mainline and 0.06 hooklength and 24 or 26 hooks with half a squatt as bait to catch fish.
 

108831

Well-known member
Joined
May 11, 2017
Messages
8,761
Reaction score
4,193
I won my section in a winter league match on the Thame with 1lb 1oz of sticklebacks doing that Mark,not sure if I had around 600 of them(I used to count tiny fish back then to try to keep a good catch rate and motivate myself within the boredom of it),could have been 300 i can't remember now,thank God I don't match fish today,although that section win helped to a clean sweep of six to win the individual trophy and helped the team win the match and ultimately the league,so happy days...
 

markcw

Exiled Northerner
Joined
Sep 22, 2017
Messages
12,915
Reaction score
11,330
Location
Oxford, and occasionally Warrington Lancs
That's some amount, We cant weigh those in, and another thing I have not seen a stickleback in any
of the water I fish for a long time, or tadpoles. That could be the start of another thread..

"Where have all the sticklebacks and tadpoles gone ?"
 

108831

Well-known member
Joined
May 11, 2017
Messages
8,761
Reaction score
4,193
Funny that,we couldn't weigh them in most matches,this particular winter league allowed them,just as well as the majority would have blanked without them in that match.
 

nottskev

Well-known member
Joined
Nov 3, 2016
Messages
5,903
Reaction score
7,914
As well as being a bait to save the day in gruesome winter matches, squatts did a lot of other things, too. They were a great feed bait for bigger canal fish like bream, where they didn't break up balls of soft groundbait. (This is before poles, which let you simply pot bait in) Two or three on a hook often turned up the bigger bream or roach in a session. I believe that in some areas - down in |Peter Crabtree's neck of the woods, for instance -they developed a whole canal style based on loosefed squatts and light wagglers. A useful bait, tiny as they were, and I guess the demand has fallen away as fishing evolved into its more steroid-, sorry, fishmeal-fed version.
 
Last edited:

silvers

Well-known member
Joined
May 19, 2012
Messages
629
Reaction score
701
Alan (Whitty) may know more than a little bit about the squatt method on narrow canals in the 80s.

loose fed squatt is still a brilliant method for canal and drain roach. If you're doing it right then usually squatt on the hook is more effective than pinkie.
Back in the day some people used more than two pints of loose feed. I've rarely used more than a half pint myself - even on prolific waters like Old Nene at March.
FWIW - i prefer white to red, unfortunately I can only get the latter locally.

For the OP ... don't try to store it in maize or bran - brick dust is best as described.
 

108831

Well-known member
Joined
May 11, 2017
Messages
8,761
Reaction score
4,193
I've used two pints in five hours Alex,it used to be more usual to use half to a pint of squatts,it varied what was best on the hook,it was better if pinkie was,because of colour variations giving better options,usually squatt worked better for me when it was a struggle and white squatts for me,every time. And yes Alex I have caught the odd fish or two on them...
 

hawb811

Well-known member
Joined
Sep 17, 2015
Messages
85
Reaction score
0
Location
coseley
i put some punch crumb with them when they started to sweat and they died
 

rayner

Well-known member
Joined
Nov 9, 2015
Messages
4,861
Reaction score
2,050
Location
South Yorkshire.
I can't remember squatts being sweaty, Did you take the brick sand other wise known as dust off them.
Brick sand keeps them fresh and helps to keep them for ages. Anything other than the medium you buy them in will kill them.
Every tackle shop that sells them uses brick sand because it's the only medium they will tolerate.
 

hawb811

Well-known member
Joined
Sep 17, 2015
Messages
85
Reaction score
0
Location
coseley
there was something dark in with them but they did go sweaty and were crawling all around the bait box
 
Top