13' 2 piece rods

mikench · Nov 28, 2018

I didn't know such rods existed but they do. Does anyone have one and are they as cumbersome to transport as I imagine!

I looked at a pike rod with such dimensions but decided against !

108831 · Nov 28, 2018

To me they just wouldn't work,imagine if it was an acolyte,it would soon be three piece,allegedly...

tigger · Nov 28, 2018

I used a 2 piece 12ft acolyte carp waggler the other day. I made it up at home and banded it together via velcro straps and rested it in the passenger seat of the car with the back of the seat dropped back about half way.
The rod was superb to use and it's great for trotting with being very light!
I've caught a good number of species with the rod but not yet used it for a barbel, i'll remedy that next season when catching them on the float is easier. The other day I waa catching small to very large dace and some small chu b, no bumped off fish whatsoever. Regarding bumping fish off, I just don't seem to have that problem with whatever rod I use.....must be something to do with the line I use

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sam vimes · Nov 28, 2018

They are thin on the ground in general coarse fishing rods, but there are a few more out and out carp/pike rods in this configuration.

I have two 13' two piece float rods. However, they are from a manufacturer of specimen/specialist rods. As much as they are good rods, they are a complete PITA to transport. I've never been enough of of a distance freak to want carp rods longer than 12'.

103841 · Nov 28, 2018

If you own one of these

It maybe cumbersome, but if your wheels will take a 6ft 6” length, no problem.

mikench · Nov 28, 2018

John I started going fishing in a convertible and with the roof down I could fit in any rod!!!! Not much fun in the rain though!! I raised a few eyebrows!!!

Keith M · Nov 28, 2018

All five of my 12ft and 13ft Carp rods are 2 piece as are my two 12ft Barbel rods and my 2 12ft specialist bottom rods. Plus a 2 piece 13ft Tench and Specialist Float rod (which also has a small handle extension to allow it to be carried made up in its own 6ft rod sleeve); and all of my shorter rods are only two piece too.

I have no problems with carrying 6ft & 6.5ft rod sleeves in a Quiver in the back of my car if I lower the back seats down.

I do have 3 and 4 piece float rods, but most of these are a little more fragile and I keep these in tubes, and never carry these made up like I do with most of my 2 piece rods.

I don’t usually Carry more than 2 or 3 rods anyway and a lot of the time I‘m only carrying just one rod.

Keith

John Keane · Nov 28, 2018

Absolutely no need in this day and age for 13ft 2-piece rods. Some of the most demanding of rods, salmon fly speycasting rods, are all 4-piece now so who needs to get poked in the ear by a 2-piece while you’re driving?

tigger · Nov 28, 2018

John Keane said:
Absolutely no need in this day and age for 13ft 2-piece rods. Some of the most demanding of rods, salmon fly speycasting rods, are all 4-piece now so who needs to get poked in the ear by a 2-piece while you’re driving?

I have a couple of really nice travel rods, one being 11ft 6inch and made up from 6 pieces! When it's assembled there's no hint of a flat spot.
About 18 month back I went to see Steve Harrison at Liverpol regarding a travel rod and he told me the less pieces/sections to a rod the better, so according to him two piece is good but one piece would be better!

Keith M · Nov 28, 2018

John Keane said:
Absolutely no need in this day and age for 13ft 2-piece rods. Some of the most demanding of rods, salmon fly speycasting rods, are all 4-piece now so who needs to get poked in the ear by a 2-piece while you’re driving?

That’s a bit of a silly statement John, I’ve never even come close to having a rod poke me in the ear when I’ve been driving, and neither has anyone else I know, and because I can go fishing any day of the week at a moments notice and be fishing immediately when fishing for much shorter periods, then having a ready made up 13ft Specimen Float rod is Ideal.

Anglers have been carrying 13ft Carp rods and specimen rods since the early 70s and it’s quite normal in this day and age for anglers to carry such rods; especially when they have hatchbacks or estate cars.

And I’ve never damaged any of my rods through keeping them ready made-up in padded rod sleeves either (so far anyway

) and I’ve been doing it for years now.

Keith

Tee-Cee · Nov 29, 2018

I have a 2 piece 12' Ultralight and that is about as far as I would go. Even this could be a pain to transport so I do have to mentally think about it when I take it on a session. I take great care anyway, so no mishaps to date thankfully....

A 13' x 2 piece? Just too much risk IMHO and I wouldn't consider one, but then I'm only talking of a fairly fragile rods anyway, and in a quite small car!

John Keane · Nov 29, 2018

Keith M said:
That’s a bit of a silly statement John, I’ve never even come close to having a rod poke me in the ear when I’ve been driving, and neither has anyone else I know, and because I can go fishing any day of the week at a moments notice and be fishing immediately when fishing for much shorter periods, then having a ready made up 13ft Specimen Float rod is Ideal.

Anglers have been carrying 13ft Carp rods and specimen rods since the early 70s and it’s quite normal in this day and age for anglers to carry such rods; especially when they have hatchbacks or estate cars.

And I’ve never damaged any of my rods through keeping them ready made-up in padded rod sleeves either (so far anyway ) and I’ve been doing it for years now.

Keith

For many years I did beachcasting matches using 2-piece 12 & 13ft rods and, in normal sized cars like Golf or Focus, the tips would be poking through at elbow or ear level, so it’s not that silly a statement.

I don’t do carp fishing and my made-up specimen and pike rods are all 11ft, a length which I greatly prefer to anything longer.

mikench · Nov 29, 2018

I already have 13' and 14' 3 piece rods which are not a problem! I too have a 12' Matchpro and this is the most ponderous to transport but it makes up for it in use!!!

I had a chance to buy an old Daiwa Amorphous 13' rod bearing the illustrious name ( in piking circles) of Neville Fickling but won't bother as 13' 2 piece is too much!!

Mind you it would go on the roof rack in one piece!

sam vimes · Nov 29, 2018

People talk as if 6'6" is no issue whatsoever. In some respects they might be right, in others they are dead wrong. I'd also hazard a guess that most of those that think it's no issue have a specialist angling background, and bigger cars. 6'6" rods are a pain in many average cars. Putting the back seats down doesn't necessarily do the trick without fannying about with the front passenger seat. You can pretty much forget about getting them in without putting the back seats down.

Then there's a question of buying luggage for the rods. Some specialist 3/4 rod sleeves will accomodate the extra 6", and a quiver of some description should be no issue, but just about any other form of luggage, that can accomodatethe longer rods, is at an absolute premium. When I say that they are a PITA to transport, these are the issues I mean.

I'm in no way suggesting that everyone rush out to buy four or six piece rods, but two piece 12' rods are about as long as most folks should go. There had to be a very good reason for me to get a 13' two piece. That was because it's a rod type (really heavy duty float rod) that no one else does. At times, they irritate the hell out of me.

John Keane · Nov 29, 2018

tigger said:
I have a couple of really nice travel rods, one being 11ft 6inch and made up from 6 pieces! When it's assembled there's no hint of a flat spot.
About 18 month back I went to see Steve Harrison at Liverpol regarding a travel rod and he told me the less pieces/sections to a rod the better, so according to him two piece is good but one piece would be better!

I’m not talking about travel rods, although I’ve owned a Shimano Exage 6 piece spinning rod and a Greys Missionary 5-piece fly rod that were both lovely rods with great actions. I’m just questioning why we are constantly being told/flogged long two-piece rods for specimen and carp angling? Is the only reason because trying to keep 3 and 4 piece rods made up in a sleeve is a ball-ache?

mikench · Nov 29, 2018

I remain happy to assemble my rods on the bank save for one Drennan rod which i keep made up! I store them in a quality bag and a hard or padded case! some rods are in tubes! A 6'6" length isn't for me!!!

Rods with a broken tip have been adapted to accommodate a swing tip and springtip so not wasted!!!

tigger · Nov 29, 2018

Is the only reason because trying to keep 3 and 4 piece rods made up in a sleeve is a ball-ache?[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't like to say, obviously they have their reasons.....deffo be something to do with money !

sam vimes · Nov 29, 2018

John Keane said:
I’m just questioning why we are constantly being told/flogged long two-piece rods for specimen and carp angling? Is the only reason because trying to keep 3 and 4 piece rods made up in a sleeve is a ball-ache?

I suspect that the reasons are twofold. The first is that specialist angling, and latterly commie match angling has gone down the road of having rods permanently made up in sleeves and cases especially to facilitate it. The second is that rod builders, in markets other than game angling, tend to prefer to keep the joints to a minimum to produce better actioned rods. The reality is that they could probably produce multi-section rods just as good, but the prices would inevitably be higher.

When you are talking about coarse angling, where many are taking lots of gear (compared to game anglers) few will pay a premium for a multi-section rod that might replicate what they could get in a cheaper two section rod. The space saving and ease of transport isn't a significant factor for a coarse angler that's likely to be taking chairs, bedchairs, bivvies, seatboxes, long landing net handles etc. Different ball game for a game angler that can easily get all the required gear in the boot of a small car, provided the rods pack down small enough. The only real market for multi-sectioned rods outside of game anglers is amongst opportunist anglers, minimalists, or those with no car, or a hairdressers car!

mikench · Nov 29, 2018

sam vimes said:
hairdressers car!

What's that Sam!

The rod which irked my curiosity must be nearly 30 years old and I have never seen or heard of a 2piece 13 footer! As you say it would be somewhat impractical!

terry m · Nov 29, 2018

I have a couple of 12'6" 2 piece rods. They are no issue to transport whatsoever. Adding another 3 inches, if I needed a rod of that length would not be an issue either.

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