Companies like marukyu...
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According to Marukyu they, like so many others, quoted the current poor market conditions linked to (let's keep within the site's rule and say), the same problems with any company who import their products from across the globe.
They also mentioned the "turmoil within the UK angling trade," which is something I'd not really heard of previously
I feel very sorry for their employees as well as their customers, but hey ho, that is life today in this country . . . .
They also mentioned the "turmoil within the UK angling trade," which is something I'd not really heard of previously
I feel very sorry for their employees as well as their customers, but hey ho, that is life today in this country . . . .
mikench
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It won't be just Angling companies leaving either.
Neither company have ceased trading,only stopped selling in the UK,Skrettings virtually had a monopoly on fish feeds,and didn't sell that much direct to the angling trade,more animal feed merchants,Marukyu however sold,nay sells products all over the UK,for sea angling and freshwater and no doubt they're products will still be sold here,somebody will take on importing they're stuff,I feel maybe the competition was too great for them,with specialist groundbait specifically manufactured for UK anglers....
International companies like Maruku don't just wake up one morning and decide to just leave a market as the decision is made following a lengthy detailed cost benefit financial analysis . . . .
It follows that if the parent company sees little or no profit, under changing commercial curcumstances, then no third party who might step in would make anything at all.
Currently Marukyu (a Japanese company) operate in the uk under existing trading arrangements, as adapted under the EU-Japan Trade Agreement that came into force on February 1st 2019, although they obviously see no commercial benefit to stating and operating in the uk.
It has to be remembered that Japan have stated unequivocally that they are not prepared to roll-over said agreement (in its entirety) should the uk leave the EU, so their products will not be available to any third party who might be interested at their current pricing levels . . . .
I will leave it there as any further commentary would at least "badly bruise" if not break the site's rules
It follows that if the parent company sees little or no profit, under changing commercial curcumstances, then no third party who might step in would make anything at all.
Currently Marukyu (a Japanese company) operate in the uk under existing trading arrangements, as adapted under the EU-Japan Trade Agreement that came into force on February 1st 2019, although they obviously see no commercial benefit to stating and operating in the uk.
It has to be remembered that Japan have stated unequivocally that they are not prepared to roll-over said agreement (in its entirety) should the uk leave the EU, so their products will not be available to any third party who might be interested at their current pricing levels . . . .
I will leave it there as any further commentary would at least "badly bruise" if not break the site's rules
sam vimes
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I very much doubt that Marukyu UK made much money. They were an importer of a product that didn't really take off, was deemed too expensive by most, and struggled to shift even when heavily discounted. Marukyu never operated in the UK themselves, a third party importer chose to bring in their product and then chose to stop.
Skrettings are a different kettle of fish entirely. They actually had very little to do with the fishing tackle trade. The fact that they shifted some product in that direction wasn't especially important to them. Skrettings had been operating for years prior to the vast majority of anglers even being aware of their existence. They've taken a business decision and abandoned the UK market, so what? I'm sure that Coppens will be pleased. However, I suspect that the writing is on the wall for any producer of fishmeal based products. Just look at the mad scramble amongst the bait companies to find alternative protein sources.
Skrettings are a different kettle of fish entirely. They actually had very little to do with the fishing tackle trade. The fact that they shifted some product in that direction wasn't especially important to them. Skrettings had been operating for years prior to the vast majority of anglers even being aware of their existence. They've taken a business decision and abandoned the UK market, so what? I'm sure that Coppens will be pleased. However, I suspect that the writing is on the wall for any producer of fishmeal based products. Just look at the mad scramble amongst the bait companies to find alternative protein sources.
If it is meant by angling trends,carp fishing,there are an awful lot of anglers fishing,commercials,with pellet,pellet based g.baits,when I watch match anglers fishing rivers,they often mix three kilos of g.bait,at around £4 a kilo,I would imagine there is a fair profit,on the basis they don't pay half that to produce it,not too many anglers use neat brown crumb anymore and more shops have a good stock of the stuff,if this is to do with the magical B word,it is a joke,as our country doesn't get bait cheap...
John Keane
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Marukyu were a bit of a fad with those JPZ pellets. I’ve got some of their sticky micro pellets for Method feeders and they are just too sticky and make a right mess of your hands.
As for Skrettings pellets, I prefer Coppens as they don’t break down as fast as Skrettings, but that’s just me.
As for Skrettings pellets, I prefer Coppens as they don’t break down as fast as Skrettings, but that’s just me.
Firstly the FM rules. I may be wrong but angling politics are OK??
Secondly if any one want fishmeal based groundbait and sticky pellets and boilies and more at very reasonable prices made by a small Lincolnshire company that is gaining a good reputation.
I have started using their stuff and its good.
EVOLVED BAITS LINCOLN. Made on the premises just off the A46 South side of Lincoln. They do mail order.
Secondly if any one want fishmeal based groundbait and sticky pellets and boilies and more at very reasonable prices made by a small Lincolnshire company that is gaining a good reputation.
I have started using their stuff and its good.
EVOLVED BAITS LINCOLN. Made on the premises just off the A46 South side of Lincoln. They do mail order.
terry m
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I have never bought anything from the company in question. But I am reasonably certain that any company, regardless of there products or services, is going to walk away from a lucrative market.
It is basic business sense.
It is basic business sense.
The rate of duty to be paid on an imported product is levied according to . . . Country of Origin and not the nationality of the importer.
There are two main categories of defining origin:
1. Goods wholly produced in a single county, or,
2. Goods that involve more than one country for parts or ingredients.
If there exists a trade agreement between the various countries then a zero rate may be assigned, although where no agreement exists then the prevailing "quota" will affect the duty to be paid.
Import of goods is a minefield that needs careful consideration otherwise profits will drop.
There are two main categories of defining origin:
1. Goods wholly produced in a single county, or,
2. Goods that involve more than one country for parts or ingredients.
If there exists a trade agreement between the various countries then a zero rate may be assigned, although where no agreement exists then the prevailing "quota" will affect the duty to be paid.
Import of goods is a minefield that needs careful consideration otherwise profits will drop.
Jeff Woodhouse
Moaning Marlow Meldrew
I was gutted when Marukyu pulled out of the UK and I was lead to believe that its was the Japanese company and they made some of the products here. I have a stock of loads of Skrill pellets and am now coming to the end of my Sticky pellets, which unlike John Keane, I do like especially the smell of them.
I've looked on the Evolved Baits website and I am wondering if their Sticky and Krill pellets are in fact Marukyu products imported. I'll have to give them a try to find out, I guess.
When Marukyu first opened up here, Granville Marsbar and myself spoke to Roy Marlow, their chief 'consultant' and he tried to explain all the strange codes for their groundbaits.
Normally we British anglers buy products with names like Bream 3000, Lake, River, or at worst F1 Match. The names indicate quite clearly the purpose of the baits, to attract bream or fish in a lake etc. Marukyu came up with codes like EFG 101, SDP 130 or AFP 310 and I doubt that many British anglers like myself could get their heads around them.
On the packets there were descriptions of what EFG mean, for example – Explosive Feeder Groundbait, but then why not call it that along with a flavour and whether it was fine or coarse in texture? Because the numbering system described the flavour and the last digit was how coarse of fine it was, 0 very fine and 4 or 5 very coarse, if I remember. And therein lies the problem, can I remember what the numbers represented for the flavours? NO!
Before they packed in they were bringing in products I could relate to and I thought they were excellent quality and good value. So short of finding someone who will import their products, perhaps Evolved Baits, I am really going to miss them. Especially their Sanagi liquid flavouring, belting stuff.
rich66
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I’ve always thought Marukyu Skrill pellets were the dogs do da’s. Until recently I’ve not been a big pellet user even now I probably don’t use loads. But I did like them even if just in my groundbait.
Robin Reds are now my go to instead.
Robin Reds are now my go to instead.
no-one in particular
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A bloke from Marukyu contacted me about making my fishing data into an app for them once a long time ago. I cannot remember what the deal was but they turned it down in the end as they couldn't do it for some reason, maybe they should have and they would still be in business
I would hope g'bait costs a lot less than 1/2 the £4/kg to manufacture otherwise it would be sold at a loss.