Loop knot

mikench · Feb 20, 2020

I use these a lot for hook lengths and for attaching guru feeders and whilst I can tie them myself I use a loop tyer such as the ringer/ Preston variety or the sensas one. My question is should one wet the knot before tightening and do you.

I confess I rarely do.

tigger · Feb 20, 2020

I usually wet any knot, not sure it always matters though.

nottskev · Feb 20, 2020

Definitely, Mike. This clip explains the benefit of lubricating knots, and other things

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Richox12 · Feb 20, 2020

Never on a loop knot but I do on more complicated knots simply to make pulling them up tight easier.

peter crabtree · Feb 20, 2020

I always wet my knots, it only takes a second to lick one. A dry knot may cause momentary friction on ones line which may weaken the knot.
Same applies when tying spade ends, it ensures a neat finish.

108831 · Feb 20, 2020

Absobloodylutely....

wetthrough · Feb 20, 2020

I had some time on my hands so tried wet one end dry the other with some Preston Reflo precision Power 0.14 I had left over using a swan neck loop tyer. 8 out of 11 broke at the wetted end. It only takes a tiny difference for one end to go before the other so for that particular line I'd say there isn't much difference. I've always wetted knots simply because almost everything you read says to do so. The only time I've seen written otherwise was in the Stroft catalogue.

103841 · Feb 20, 2020

Don’t go licking and Chinese line.....just saying.

Peter Jacobs · Feb 20, 2020

I always wet all knots, even loops.

The danger is that a dry knot on tightening can "burn" and thereby weaken the line.

tigger · Feb 20, 2020

Always remember, a slow prolonged pull is better than a sharp tugg :w.

john step · Feb 20, 2020

s63 said:
Don’t go licking and Chinese line.....just saying.

Also once its been in the water.

rayner · Feb 20, 2020

I suspect you already knew the answer Mike, always wet all knots without fail.

Golden Eagle · Feb 20, 2020

‘Burn’ the line is quite correct. Friction causes heat causing a burn to the line, which occurs with both knots and sliding shot.

Try sliding a stotz quickly along a foot of dry line, the heat it gets to is quite intense.

The more turns on the knot the more friction. The quicker the motion the more friction.

Wetting both lubricates and cools.

Not always necessary but generally a good habit to adopt, both when tightening knots and sliding shot.

trotter2 · Feb 20, 2020

tigger said:
Always remember, a slow prolonged pull is better than a sharp tugg :w.

Yep and always plenty of lube Ian.?

bracket · Feb 20, 2020

For me it's a figure of eight knot with a good blob of gob. Works every time. No heat friction and no crimping. Pete

tigger · Feb 21, 2020

trotter2 said:
Yep and always plenty of lube Ian.??????

I think your imagination is running away with you

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John Keane · Feb 21, 2020

Figure of Eight Knot, or Perfection Loop is all I use for fly fishing applications. When coarse fishing I use the Seymo Loop Tyer for uniformity of loop sizes with the Double Overhand Knot. Don’t like those Sensas ones that look like a bird’s head, over complicating a simple procedure.

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