You lot may have to put up with me reminding you that some things can be bought cheaper, bought second hand, or made for yourself - but at least I won't wind anyone up like that. If you ever see me starting a thread on bivvies, then you can dip me in d*gsh*t - if you can catch me! - Hey cakey - what are the odds on nevertone being relegated next season? Perhaps they'll meet Tranmere coming in the other direction?