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Murray Rogers · Nov 9, 2009

I have just aquired two books.
The first is the 'Domesday Book of Mammoth Pike.

The second is 'Freshwater Fishing'.

The first is a Limited edition, it says inside the front cover,

For Arthur and Jeanne
with my best wishes

Fred Buller (signature) December 79.

Next page has.

This special Limited Edition of 8 copies signed by the Authur and bound in Red Ecrase leather compliments the limited edition of 16 copies Bound in Green Morocco.

The book has Gold leaf to the edges of the page and is in excellent condition.

This is Number 3.

Book two is called 'Freshwater Fishing', has the same provenence as the other, is a 1975 edition but signed in July 79.
Leather bound, gold leaf and in excellent condition.

Does anybody out ther know what they might be worth?
I have paid quite a lot for them in my eyes but have a feeling that it was money well spent.

dezza · Nov 9, 2009

The book of real value by Fred Buller is "Pike". You will need a first edition and signed for it to raise about £200. But the condition must be mint.

"Domesday" is not all that valuable, say £40.

I take it that "Freshwater Fishing", written by Hugh Falkus, Fred Buller, Richard Walker, and a few others is obviously a hardback. Even so this book is not as valuable as you might think.

However I would hate to put a value on it.

Fred Bonney · Nov 9, 2009

Murray have a look here

fred buller - pike - AbeBooks

and here

http://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/S...18&n=200000169&sortby=1&tn=Freshwater+Fishing

Mark Wintle · Nov 9, 2009

The value of very limited editions comes down to what people are prepared to pay.

The danger in leather bound editions is that there have been a number of recent cases where people have taken ordinary editions and rebound them in leather claiming them to be special limited editions when they are nothing of the sort, and, of course, charged much more than their real worth. Probably the only sure way is to contact the author or publisher to find out what was done at the time of publication.

Murray Rogers · Nov 9, 2009

The books had been owned by a friend of Freds. He had on a number of occasions let Hugh and Fred stay at his cottage in Ireland and had shared many a beer with them. Fred still gets into his shop, which is local to me, so i believe the provenence to be accurate.

If Ron is correct then i have spent much too much, but after lookin at old sales on e-bay i think i might have got a good deal.

As has been pointed out, they are worth what somebody is prepared to pay. I have seen this first book change hands for over 500 pounds, and this one is a limited edition of just 8.

I'm not doing this to make money by the way, i just fancied owning something rare for a while.

Stealph Viper · Nov 9, 2009

If you really wanted to own something rare for a while that doesn't cost and arm and a leg, try a nice piece of Rump Steak :wh

Murray Rogers · Nov 9, 2009

Nice one Fred, if thats what they go for then I believe i've done ok.

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I've seen the price of Rump Steak, I'll stick to books, you can still get your money back after having the book.

peter crabtree · Nov 9, 2009

Mr Crabtree goes fishing, or Fishing with Mr Crabtree in all waters, the true bibles of proper fishing,not rare but worth a read.

Taxi........................

904_cannon · Nov 9, 2009

Not sure of its value now, but I bought a Bernard Venables 'Freshwater Fishing' first published 1967, for £2-00 on Chester ls Street market. The guy wanted £2-50 but I beet him down.
Another good buy was Andy Orme's 'Barbel Mania' but that cost me all of £6-00. - the seller knew a thing or two about books

The last time I saw the CSG book on a web site is was going for just over £400-00. I know a lad who bought up 100+ at £2-50!!!

The next limited print run is due out next year

mikeshaw1979 · Nov 9, 2009

Ron The Hat Clay said:
"Domesday" is not all that valuable, say £40.

Rubbish !! Add a nought for £400+

Ron The Hat Clay said:
I take it that "Freshwater Fishing", written by Hugh Falkus, Fred Buller, Richard Walker, and a few others is obviously a hardback. Even so this book is not as valuable as you might think.

Why must **** Walker always creep into your posts Ron?

For the record "Freshwater Fishing" was co-authored by Fred Buller & Hugh Falkus in 1975. The book was completely revised in 1988.
I happen to have that edition signed by Hugh. I suppose I could always ask Fred to sign it as well.

Murray, I think both your books are very valuable. If you are ever in mid Wales, call in at Coch-y-Bonddu in Machynlleth. Paul Morgan, author and proprietor, has a great interest in pike literature. I'm sure he would love to see them and would then guide you accordingly.

Murray Rogers · Nov 10, 2009

Apparently, the Arthur who the books were given to by Fred Buller is a Mr Arthur Sharpe who was the lead singer with a band called the Nashville Teens and had a no 1 with Tobbacco Road. It is Arthurs cottage in Ireland where they used to stay.

mikeshaw1979 · Nov 10, 2009

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Hz2PEny-0M"]YouTube- Nashville Teens -Tobacco Road[/ame]

Fred Bonney · Nov 10, 2009

Ah memories, I had that on a Decca 45, my brother left it on the windowledge,it turned into an ashtray!!!

Never forgiven him

r1paul · Nov 10, 2009

Nashville Teens ,Tobacco Road , a very good tune in it`s time , the best of a very poor bunch , still it made them a lot more dosh than I will ever have .

geoffmaynard · Nov 10, 2009

Coch-y-Bonddu has a web site too, just google it. Paul Morgan really knows his stuff - a flick through his listings will soon give you a rough valuation. It will also give you a yen to buy a few others!

Murray Rogers · Nov 10, 2009

Just tried the Welsh site and its Brill, one to save on favourites.

These books look like they might be a bit special just because of the number of limited edition copies made.

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Thats brilliant mate, this guy, the lead singer drinks in the pub most days and he has got a few stories.

dezza · Nov 11, 2009

Ah well, we are given to understatement in Yorkshire.

noknot · Nov 11, 2009

Good job you never sold them on recomendations Murry

Colin Brett · Nov 11, 2009

I have often wondered about dedications by authors in books?
Some say the book is devalued by a dedication but worth more with just the authors signature?

Within the Specialist anglers world at present there is a move towards getting multi signatures in books written with the help of guest writers. EG. "Fenland Pike" written by Denis Moules and Mark Barrett, this has several guest chapters, including one by me. I have been asked to co-sign this book a few times and wondered whether this is a good move on the part of the book owner?
Anyone have the definitive answers to these questions please.

Just incase I want an autograph in a book!

Mark Wintle · Nov 11, 2009

I think it depends on the dedication. One from **** Walker to Peter Stone could be very sought after, for instance but one to 'Jeff' might make little difference to value. Sometimes a signature is so common that one without a signature is worth more.

Of multiple contribution books, 'Red Letter Days' which has 51 signatures to collect is a tough task, a couple do exist with a complete set and these are very valuable indeed, far in excess of the usual value of about £60. It is unlikely more will ever get to this state as several contributors have since died.

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