Ultra-lite Lurefishing

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Carp Angler

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I'm thinking of trying this method for perch soon.
Can anyone recommend a suitable rod and reel or combo.
The lake I plan to assault does not contain pike, it's reasonably shallow and clear with a profusion of lillies.
The maximum cast would be about 30 yards.
Also any hints or tips from more experiemced Ultra-liters would be appreciated.
 
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Rob Brownfield

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Carp Angler, spooky that, i posted the same time as u!!....
I use a 5 foot Fibatube glass rod from Hardys that I built myself, but I want to move up to a carbon rod. I have used the tiny Abt Droppen spinners to very good effect on 4 pound line. The reel is a little Shakespeare Sigma 030 from about 12 years ago.
 
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Extra spooky! I was talking to Steve Crowther (not yet on the net) at the NEC. He's an acknowledged expert at lure fishing and the following lures are his recommendation for perch:

Rapala Fat Rap 3cm Firetiger.
2" Yellow Curlytail with hard head case, fast and slow sink, 10g and 5g.
Vibrax Silver or yellow size 0.

I'll find out off him what his rod and reel recommendations are and get back to you.

Steve has also sent a lure fishing article for FM which will be posted next week sometime.
 
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Rob Brownfield

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ahhh...but baited with what...come on...tell us ya secret...hehe.

I have also found the Kwikfish range of bannan baits to be a good Perch taker, even there large 6 inch beasties will attract perch.
 
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Rob Thompson

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Rik

Have finally joined up, you know I can get you top u-light we just don't advertise them at the moment. As for perch lures you had a load off me at Birmingham!!!!
 
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Philip Inzani

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Rik, wait for them to start following a lure then chuck a live bait on their head! ;-)

Seriously (?!) Not being a lure expert by any stretch of the imagination I am not going to contradict anything the guys above have said but what I would add is that I used to fish Bewl water for Trout and the Perch where unbelievable suckers for a fly, some good ones too....I dont think you can get more utlra light than that on a light fly rod. We used to chase the shoals along the dam wall and the advantage was that the fly did not seem to spook them at all. I am sure if we had been dragging a spinner or similar through them they would not have stayed around for more than a cast or two.
 
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Rob Brownfield

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Mr Thompson, can u give me details abut the rods u can get?
 
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Rob Thompson

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Rob,

Please phone on (01590) 612608, I can give the full range spec etc. They are all british blanks and hand built with many design options etc. A bit to many to type out here!

I look forward to speaking with you.

Rob
 
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Rob Thompson

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You never asked. I recommended the other R Thompson's because they are about ?15 not ?60 or ?70, but if you want the Rolls Royce of Ultralights I'll get one to match your Springates, and a healthy discount to boot!!
 
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Carp Angler

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How healthy?
(he asked scepticly)

You're late to be online.
I'll be up tomorrow to pick up those flavours etc etc.
 
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sam oddy

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The spookiness goes on.

In thirty five years of fishing I have never seriously considered predator fishing. This winter though I have given quite a bit of thought to some largish perch that inhabit our ponds. The largest landed was over 31/2 lbs and won the lucky captor a rod and reel from AM.

There are no pike in the waters and oddly enough no eels. I have thought about using lures called, I think, leadheads. During a bout of insomnia I saw some advertised on QVC (or somesuch sales channel) and more recently by Messrs Hayes & Brown.

Can anyone give any advice on these little latex jobbies - ie are they any use or yet another ruse to impoverish me.

Cheers
 
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Carp Angler

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Rob sells those aswell.
My first step as a perching virgin, is going to be with normal lures.
Once I am having relative success or otherwise with those (e.g.when I'm happy I can do it to some success) then I may progress on to leadheads etc.
I feel you need to impart your own movement on these, of which I am not too sure about at the mo.
 
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Rob Brownfield

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Sam, leadheads (jigs) are used by the Yanks for a lot of Perch fishing. Experoment with retrieves. I have had Perch on a steady retirive one day then bouncing the bottom the next. I think the rule with perch is experiment!
 
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James Bradshaw

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Been a while since this thread was last used... however, as a new user I consider it my right to scour the threads and disrupt the flow, so... <g> For my perch lure-fishing, I've never needed to look beyond the Rublex ''Ondex'' spinners, sizes 4 and 5 (I'm sure you've seen them - silver (or gold - but they're not as good) background, red and black painted stripes, bit of red wool on the treble...) Just be sure to use a trace though, cos pike take them even more readily than perch! These are without doubt the most effective spinners I've ever used - my local tackle shop sells out of them as soon as a new batch arrives (normally the day before I go in there asking whether they've had any in yet...!) I'm not ''blinkered'' - if anyone tells me that such-and-such works, I'll give it a go - but if I'm lure-fishing for pike or perch, I'll use these before anything else.
 
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Rob Brownfield

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I've been using Tube lures from Creme (via Harris) for the Perch recently...and they are BRILLIENT...Loads of big fish on them!
 
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Goose Ganderton

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Hi Guy?s
I wanted to resurrect this thread again to see how you are all faring with your new ultra-light lures.

Also to ask Rik if he purchased one of Rob Thompson?s Rolls Royce of all ultra-light rods, if so does it live up to the RR billing.

The reason I ask is that I am looking for a UL rod. Daiwa list one that is a 2 pieces 7? at about ?60 and will cast lures from 3grams. So can the RT rod match the stats but better the price.

Goose

Angling with a passion
http://www.kentspecialistanglers.moonfruit.com
 
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Chris Bishop

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Anyone tried those really tiny shads from harris yet..?

Slightly bigger and I reckon they'd be the canine's cojones for zander.
 
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Nick Hoekstra

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If you gentlemen want to try something different, put a float on your line and hang a 1/16 oz. or smaller leadheadjig under it with about 1/2 nightcrawler on the back. Start fairly high in the water and every few casts drop the jig a bit further down. If the perch are there, you will hit them. When you cast, leave it for a few minutes and than give it a slight jerk. Take in the slack line and repeat until under the shore.
Bring it in and recast a bit over from the first cast, etc. Make sure the float (I think you call it a strike indicator) matches the jig weight. Very light pen style float, only the top 1/2 to 3/4" should show, it disappears you set the hook. Have fun. (it is!!!)
P.S. Chris; you want at least 3-4" shad for zander and a jig with a generous bend in the hook. Don't use ones designed for worms or grubs.
 
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