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Tex Aitken

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after my winging about match men not having a section of their own i can not think of any thing to say apart from thank you FM i am shure the match mens threads will not be full of moans and grones about carp anglers
 
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Terry Comerford

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I don't think that should be the case at all, match anglers have a lot to thank the carp guys for.
Hair rigs are used in matches far more now, catching those wary, bigger carp and barbel.
The flavours that are popular in groundbaits and powder and liquid forms have all filtered down from the 'speccie' circuit.
I also think a lot of improvements in tackle design comes from anglers targeting specimen fish.
 
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Terry,
It works the other way round as well. Match type tactics sometimes help the specialist angler to catch some big fish that would not have been caught otherwise.
We can all learn something from each other.
 
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Terry Comerford

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You're right Dave, I had some big chub (to 5lb) on the Teme last winter, piling maggots in constantly match style, fishing a half depth waggler rig.
 
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A lot of decent, thinking carp/specimen anglers have taken a lot from match fishing, especially a good matchmans ability to feed a swim correctly and accurately.

The best all round angler, would be the one who can work his swim to it's limit, as a matchman would, but with the guts to experiment with rigs and flavourings as carp anglers do.

I will certainly be watching these posts and asking, when appropriate, to gleen info to help my angling.
 
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Terry Comerford

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Thats exactly how it should be, each discipline of angling helping the other. Carp angler, whats the most successful flavour of boilie you have used this year?
 
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Over silt and mud, then it's Activ-8.
On clean gravel and in weed thru the summer, then it's an esterrised fruit flavour, when it's colder then I'm more reliant on inbuilt attractors as opposed to flavourings.
 
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I don?t want to show my ignorance but what is activ-8? I have not come across that one
 
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Thanks CA, In the summer I had some success with a paste made from Activ8 base mix, activator, and brown crumb.
That was on a local commercial where boilies are banned.
Is there a winter base mix thats better than Activ8 that I could experiment with in an attempt to find a paste that would win matches in the colder months?
 
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Terry Comerford

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Nah Tex, thats for cars not carp!
Carp just drive you mad! :)
 
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Terry I have just found carp active-8 and winter-8 cant say i have come across them well down here in rainy Devon we have just discovered that maggots are a good bait
 
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i have just taken out a second morgage and bought some active-8, could you please tell me what is the best way to use it
 
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Tex, you have got to take out another mortgage for a bottle of activator.
Mix in a couple of raw eggs and a little water and add groundbait or
brown crumb till you form a stiff paste. Only mix enough for a jaffa sized ball of paste.
You can pole or waggler fish it on a 12 or 14.
I haven't tried it in the winter yet, but in summer I was taking all species with it.
 
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If you buy some of the Activ-8 base mix and add eggs and Avtiv-8or, then it will last you a fair bit (providing you keep the base mix away from the mice ! ! !)
I've had some very good barbel success by adding an HNV base mix to the equation, but that may be out of the price range of most.

If you make up a fair amount and then section it out into session sized amounts and put them into sandwich bags and then flatten them and then freeze them, then they will be ready to take out at a moments notice.
Flattening them before freezing, means that they will freeze and thaw quicker than balls.
 
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Ron Troversial Clay

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Some interesting points here.

I have watched a lot of match anglers recently and the biggest difference beween the winners and the losers - who are always moaning as far as I can see, is not so much the methods used, or the length of the poles etc, but the feeding techniques.

Watch a top class match angler. His hand is hardly ever out of his bait bowl or maggot box. What he is doing is getting those fish into his swim and then feeding at the correct rate to get the fish competing for the bait. His work rate is enormous.

The average guy chucks out his rig or feeder, maybe a pounch full of bait every half hour, and then sits on it.

And then he moans about the conditions, wrong peg etc etc, anything other than his own incompetence.

There are enough article in the mags these days about the techniques of the winners. I wonder if your average match angler ever reads them.

On many occasions I have sat behind a top class match angler watching how he does it. You alway seem to get some other guy watching watching, who will say - "Yes but that's not fishing - moan moan moan!!"

What a lot of the losers don't seem to realise is that the object behind match fishing is to put as much weight as possible into your keepnet in 5 hours, irrespective of species or method.

Hey chaps I'm not a match angler but that's the way I see it.
 
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Hi all thanks for the tips best i go shopping again I used some active-8 today i dipped corn in it all I caught was 2 carp for 5 lb not over impressed, I will try your paste recipe next week end at white acres
 
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terry i take it i have to mix the activator with the active-8? are there any set measurements or is it trial and error?
 
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