Prices of centrepins...

[108831]

I've been looking at Youngs pins,the price is what I class as excessive for me to get value from at my age,so I won't be buying one,I knew they were expensive,but I will just have to make do with what I have I'm afraid,(okuma Sheffield,Allcocks match aerial and a Matt Hayes limited edition,which I like and must have been lucky with,plus a side casting hand made pin for barbel fishing),i've thought about used reels off of fleabay,but have lost confidence in used tackle after being burnt twice....

 

[Ray Roberts]

There are some specialist centrepin sites for buying and selling centrepins. I have had good results from them.

The retail price of the Young’s pins does make your eyes water though. If you aren’t in a hurry then you can pick up some decent bargains. I think I paid about £160 for a Young’s Super-lightweight. It was mint, but no box or papers, which wasn’t a problem for me as it was a user. I got a Young’s pouch for a score from The Tackle box. I still keep an eye on the sites and I haven’t seen anything untoward happen or dodgy dealing. The guy I bought from sells a fair few reels on there so at least he had a track record. It may be worth considering.


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[108831]

What is that site Ray,if you don't mind me asking?

 

[bullet]

I've bought a couple of Okumas off ebay with no bother, both were listed as used and both were absolutely mint.
The main problem was one of them had been spooled up with about half a mile of 4lb line, which took about 20 minutes to remove!
I think quite a few folk try them and can't get on with them, so sell them on almost unused.

 

[108831]

Yeah,the trouble is not many people spend £350 on a Youngs without a bit of knowledge,as I say i've been stung twice and didn't enjoy the experience,annoying,because if I sell on there I am always honest and wouldn't be selling things if they were sh1te....

 

[peterjg]

I have two centrepins which are used very regularly. Just a thought - I wonder how many anglers are out there with centrepins which are never used?

 

[108831]

Loads I should think Peter,at one time I was using them all the time,these days the venues i'm fishing are more suited to fixed spools imo,often i'm using 3 no.4 sticks which are not quite big enough to get the reel spinning in lighter flows....

 

[john step]

I've been looking at Youngs pins,the price is what I class as excessive for me to get value from at my age,so I won't be buying one,I knew they were expensive,but I will just have to make do with what I have I'm afraid,(okuma Sheffield,Allcocks match aerial and a Matt Hayes limited edition,which I like and must have been lucky with,plus a side casting hand made pin for barbel fishing),i've thought about used reels off of fleabay,but have lost confidence in used tackle after being burnt twice....

You are right about age and value for money angle. I think new pins are too expensive and although I can afford one I still soldier on with my ancient couple of Youngs when needs must. I have had a couple of misses on the bay when I thought my bid was fair. Sill money at times.

 

[sam vimes]

It's a pretty bad time to be buying Young's reels. It's only a matter of weeks since the brand was taken over by new owners. Most places have had no stock for months. Those that did weren't discounting. Earlier this year, Summerlands was one of the more consistent discounters of Youngs reels. Even their prices have increased now.

 

[chevin4]

High-end Centrepins are very nice and collectible. However unlike fixed spool reels I dont believe there is great deal of difference in functionality between a centre pin costing £50 and £350 indeed some of my cheaper pins such as the Okuma Aventa actually spins better than my Youngs purist. One of my mates has a Tf Gear model which he paid £45 for I was very impressed and I am sure would make a superb trotting reel being very free running. Last centrepin I brought was a Rapidex it's not particularly free running so will reserve it for small stream barbel fishing. In summary it should be possible to pick up a perfectly good centrepin up for less than £100

 

[tigger]

High-end Centrepins are very nice and collectible. However unlike fixed spool reels I dont believe there is great deal of difference in functionality between a centre pin costing £50 and £350 indeed some of my cheaper pins such as the Okuma Aventa actually spins better than my Youngs purist. One of my mates has a Tf Gear model which he paid £45 for I was very impressed and I am sure would make a superb trotting reel being very free running. Last centrepin I brought was a Rapidex it's not particularly free running so will reserve it for small stream barbel fishing. In summary it should be possible to pick up a perfectly good centrepin up for less than £100

Imo, there is a world of difference between a cheapo pin and a bespoke pin, in quality of build and materials, and when functioning.
There is also a difference between using a ball race pin and a bush and pin reel/true pin.
Unless you use a pin a lot and get really tuned in to using them you may not notice a difference between a cheapo reel and a bespoke reel, or a ball race reel and a true pin reel.
I like using both but if I had to choose between one or the other it would be a true pin.

 

[108831]

My Match Aerial is a true pin,I notice the difference,but for some weird reason really like the Matt Hayes cheap reel,had plenty of decent fish on it too,double figure barbel and chub to just under six,spins lovely(but I feel the bearings),I would like a Youngs,but can't really warrant the asking price Ian,ten years ago,even five,hut now i'm retired it seems a lot and no i'm not skint...

 

[seth49]

Is this the Matt Hayes limited edition pin you have, I have one and theirs nothing wrong with it, used it for carp margin fishing, had plenty up to mid doubles, no problems with it at all, it’s one I pick for heavy work, good strong reel, spins well too.

 

[tigger]

My Match Aerial is a true pin,I notice the difference,but for some weird reason really like the Matt Hayes cheap reel,had plenty of decent fish on it too,double figure barbel and chub to just under six,spins lovely(but I feel the bearings),I would like a Youngs,but can't really warrant the asking price Ian,ten years ago,even five,hut now i'm retired it seems a lot and no i'm not skint...

Chances are you feel the bearings in most bearing reels (including youngs) more so when just spinning them round rather than in use.
You can still pick youngs reels up pretty cheap Alan, you should be able to get an "as new" purist or BJ for 200 notes.
The okuma sheffield and aventa pros are excellent bearing reels and you can pick them up as new for between 50 and a ton easily enough.
I'd steer clear of the facache sellers as most of their stuff seems to sell on ebay, then they have it for sale at a premium price!

 

[chevin4]

My Match Aerial is a true pin,I notice the difference,but for some weird reason really like the Matt Hayes cheap reel,had plenty of decent fish on it too,double figure barbel and chub to just under six,spins lovely(but I feel the bearings),I would like a Youngs,but can't really warrant the asking price Ian,ten years ago,even five,hut now i'm retired it seems a lot and no i'm not skint...

I have a couple of Youngs reel they are beautifully made but not sure if you purchased one it would give you an edge for trotting. I have one of the original Dave Swallow reels which was about £45 back in 1994 this spins really well and is my choice where there is a lack of flow to get the reel started. I tend to use the purist for the odd trip to the Test which is of course very fast flowing.

 

[108831]

Is this the Matt Hayes limited edition pin you have, I have one and theirs nothing wrong with it, used it for carp margin fishing, had plenty up to mid doubles, no problems with it at all, it’s one I pick for heavy work, good strong reel, spins well too.View attachment 11905

Yep,that's the one Seth,got it ready for a session today,but ducked out cos of the weather...

 

[steve2]

I have a number of youngs reels ranging from 1960's Rapiex and Trudex to a 2041 Purist from 2000. They have all been well used and still work and run well. But there is not much that can go wrong with a centrepin.
So I suppose they have been very good value, would I buy another, not at todays prices I wouldn't.

 

[Ray Roberts]

I have a number of youngs reels ranging from 1960's Rapiex and Trudex to a 2041 Purist from 2000. They have all been well used and still work and run well. But there is not much that can go wrong with a centrepin.
So I suppose they have been very good value, would I buy another, not at todays prices I wouldn't.

I’m not the best one to talk, as I have never sold a reel, but I paid about £120 for my newly found Rapidex 2 and looking back it was a good investment, as on rechecking the going rate the 4 1/2 inch model goes for up to £275. I can’t think of many fixed spool reels that keep or appreciate in value.

So really they are a great investment and that is exactly how I sold it to my wife, lol.


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[108831]

My Allcocks match aerial cost me a fiver from Vauxhall AC stalwart **** Morris(sadly passed),second hand for £5 back in the seventies,still spins well,no play,what is it worth,who knows,my okuma Sheffield cost £119 new I think....the Matt Hayes cost less than £50....

 

[mikench]

I have no doubt they appreciate in value if well looked after. That’s why Tigger is a millionaire on paper.