Reducing Rod Lenth

hooklineand sinker

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Thinking of reducing the lenth of my Preston Excel 17ft to a more manable lenth of 14.5 ft getting the tip back a little to step up the power, has anyone any experience of a project like this am I likeley to lose all the rods action ?
Also just thinking of just sealing the whippings and using car wax on the blank trying for a semi matt finish .
 

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It seems a little drastic to cut down such a well made rod and I'm tempted to suggest selling it and using the cash to purchase another rod, more to your liking.

To lose two and a half feet you're going to need to lose a foot off the tip....surely no more?...and that means a full 18 inches of butt to lose. That means a new handle and moving the butt ring, before you start trying to re-balance the rod.


It's a pretty drastic course of action !!!!


As to losing the 'flash', you can flat the gel coat down with a very fine grade glass paper. This leaves it in a rather 'whitish' finish, but you can then seal this by fingering on a thin coat of matt varnish with your fingertip covered in soft lint-free cotton cloth,.. Ronseal Outdoor Matt Varnish is a good soft flexible and tough finish.
 

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It,s a very nice rod but injured my wrist in the summer and using it has become a pain.Like the action but a little to soft in the tip would only cut this back 9" it,s mostly about making a new butt and repositioning the rings.
Have not seen a rod I really like and this seemed the best way to get what I really want,
 

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IC is right - flog it and buy another. If it all goes pear-shaped it's an expensive mistake to make.

I only tried a 17ft rod once, a Harrison. I'd used a 15ft Harrison and it was a brilliant rod but the 17ft version was a a dog, or so I thought, far too top heavy. I want home from fishing with RSI! I had a wrist injury from a car smash once so I understand why you want to do it.
 

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It's tricky, isn't it? Just waggling a rod in a shop doesn't really tell you that much and not too many shops stock extra long float and trotting rods anyway.

If you're confident with putting new rings on a rod ( I can just do it, but it doesn't look pretty!), then why not give it a go then?

One 'trick' you might try is to thread your line only up to the nearest ring where you are thinking of cutting the tip section and try a few casts in the garden. You'll get some idea about the rod action if you cut at that ring before you actually reach for the saw! You can also try striking against your line tied to a bit of garden furniture and see how the rod still protects your hooklength ( or not! ) I'd imagine the rod will only work for heavier hooklengths after you cut the tip down?

As to the butt section. You could turn it over if it uses reel bands and tape new rings on the 'wrong' side to try the spacing out. I think Preston rods use screw down reel seats though, don't they? If so you're going to have to cut it all down before you do much

You can get new foam grips and reel seats from Hopkins and Holloway and theyalso have another site on the 'net called Guide 'n Blanks, more specifically aimed at rod builders.


Hopkins Holloway - specialist fishing tackle and fishing tackle components - Seymo, Fuji, Stonefly, Tomlin



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How rude of me! I should have wished you the best with your wrist injury. I had some problems once, probably caused by servicing light aircraft which seem to be held together with self-tapping screws.

My GP sent me to a clinic where a beautiful nurse worked the joints and gave me ultrasound treatment. It worked! If I'm ever troubled again, which is very rare, I can work the joints loose again.

I hope you have the same good luck and a rapid recovery.
 

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It,s a very nice rod but injured my wrist in the summer and using it has become a pain.Like the action but a little to soft in the tip would only cut this back 9" it,s mostly about making a new butt and repositioning the rings.
Have not seen a rod I really like and this seemed the best way to get what I really want,

Cutting even nine inches off will drastically stiffen the rod up. If you wanted to simply increase the power of the rod you could try cutting an inch off at a time. You'd probably find three to four inches about right - much more and you'll end up with an over-stiff rod. However, as you also want to reduce the length drastically I concur with the others; sell it and buy something more suitable.

You say you like the action; cutting lumps off arbitrarily isn't going to improve this. An experienced rod builder may be able to improve a blank by cutting it about, but even pros don't resort to this very often, as once done it cannot be undone. And I speak from bitter experience! I've ruined too many good rods over the years by mucking about with them in an effort to achieve what I wanted, and in every case I've wished I hadn't.
 

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Thanks for your input chaps ,Bought this rod on recomdation as a good big fish stopper but found the lenth also works against you and would never buy a nother rod over 15ft long . The Harrison 15ft stepped up version keeps being mentioned as a top bit of kit. Seen the 15ft excel and was a bit lightweigth for my type of fishing.Just bought another centre pin so her indoors is unlikeley to let me spend lots on a new float rod.
 

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so her indoors is unlikeley to let me spend lots on a new float rod.
Nevertheless, sell this one, don't ruin it - it will be worth nothing then!

If you ever want to flatten the gloss on a rod use some fine grade wire wool. Much kinder and you take off as much gloss as you like. Done it loads, well 2 or 3 times. I'd work along the blank, but leave the whippings. Looks as nice and kills most of the glossy bits.
 

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Thanks for your input chaps ,Bought this rod on recomdation as a good big fish stopper but found the lenth also works against you and would never buy a nother rod over 15ft long . The Harrison 15ft stepped up version keeps being mentioned as a top bit of kit. Seen the 15ft excel and was a bit lightweigth for my type of fishing.Just bought another centre pin so her indoors is unlikeley to let me spend lots on a new float rod.


if you live anyware near tamworth

15FT 3 PEICE AVANTI FLOAT/WAGLER ROD L@@@K on eBay (end time 02-Dec-10 23:14:11 GMT)

its a stepped up / power waggler type rod ,and won't break the bank .
 

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This rod is going to get reduced have made mind up.Here are a few questions I hope someone can answer for me.
Butt ring the optimum distance for use with a centre pin, will be Wallis casting rather than pulling loops through the rings, at the moment only about 12" which seems to close or have I got it wrong ?
Is there anyway I can salvage anything from the butt section with care ?
Will this invalidate my warranty:confused:
Best dimemensons for a jig thinking of using modelling wheels to help with turning.
 
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