Side casting reels

[sam vimes]

The one thing I've found with centrepin use, especially with regards to Wallis casting, is that infrequent use is not a good thing. The more you've practised in the past will minimise any issues, but just a month or so without Wallis casting sees me getting rusty. That's despite using centrepins on almost every river session I have (bare minimum is weekly). I've even taken to using pins on the odd closed season/stillwater session just to keep my hand in.

Oh, and another thing I've learned, unless you actually want to trot off the rod tip, don't bother with teeny little stick floats. Heavier float help with both casting distance and being able to keep them tracking a more distant line.

 

[108831]

Exactly Chris,I find 5-6bb a minimum start size for optimum use,bigger if possible. As for Wallis casting,I dont know why,but my biggest issues come when there is a brisk upstream wind,causing the line to gather round the handles,downstream wind,no problems....don't bloody ask me,i'm just an oddun....

 

[tigger]

For me, casting is like riding a bike, I have no problem just casting as usual after months of not touching a rod. Regarding floats, again I differ from many and can fish 25yds across a decent flow using a 2grm float . I was actually using a 3grm wire stemmed float yesterday and trotting 25/30 yards out across the flow and keeping the float on track.

 

[no-one in particular]

Is there an adaptor that could be used with any centrepin that could rotate it so that it could side cast?

good point and I have just found this for £12 https://picclick.co.uk/Adaptacast-F...-Vintage-Traditional-Angler-162975876306.html
I don't know what's it about exactly but it seems to be one.

 

[no-one in particular]

Mark there is a brand new one(Shakespeare Lincoln) for sale on eBay and open to offers. From the pic it looks to be made by Alvey in Australia.

Well spotted, I have just put a bid in for £20, many thanks, yes it does say Australian on it, looks in good nick.

 

[peterjg]

Markg, well spotted re the Adaptercast. Rarely is there anything new in fishing. Good luck with your eBay bid, let us know how you get on.

 

[Ray Roberts]

I’ve never tried it myself but I know that some people cast a normal centrepin by making an”O” shape with the thumb and forefinger of the hand not holding the rod and placing at at 90 degrees to the reel. They cast as normal but allow the line to peel off of the lip or the spool, through their fingers and then through the rings. As I say I haven’t tried it but if you can’t Wallis cast it may be worth a go.


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[Wakou]

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[no-one in particular]

Thanks Wakou but I have just paid for the Lincoln on eBay. The bloke offered it for £25 so I went for it. Look forward to getting it and trying it out; always a bit of trepidation there with eBay but should work out. It will be nice to try a proper light side caster; the one I am using will do for some pier and jetty fishing which might also be a good thing. A good thread for me then and thanks to all for the advice.
Thanks Ray and Mike, owe you both a pint.

 

[peterjg]

Ray Roberts, your above post re side casting from a centrepin does work reasonably well. Another way is to hold a pair of artery forceps for the line to go around. Years ago some old-timers used to use a specially made hook in a wooden handle to do the same. The best way though is to Wallis cast but as I fish sitting down I can't effectively Wallis cast when sitting.

 

[chevin4]

I bought a Ray Walton pin a while back . I've used it a few times with braid . I haven't had any issues with line twist but I just find the spool diameter @ 3 1/2 inches is a bit small . I've got a few other pins including a Youngs Purist and an Okuma Advanta Pro both of which I use much more than the rolling pin . I'll probably sell it one day but use it just enough to hang on to it

I brought the Ray Walton Mk2 back in 2007 I was fishing the Kennet at the time and it was great for casting using a fine braid and agree with you Ian that the spool diameter is small it seemed to take forever to retrieve the rig from a wide Weir pool. It's a shame they didnt produce the model with a larger spool diameter. The purchase of the reel was an indulgence for what is a specialised bit of kit as a result the reel is seldom used now because the waters I currently fish dont lend themselves to the rolling method. I kept the box and paperwork so dont know whether to sell it or use it the same as a traditional centrepin on smaller waters.? I was given an Aventa Pro by a friend and tried it for the first time last week and have to say it's a super reel.

 

[ian g]

Yes , I suppose most of my pin fishing is at fairly close range so the fact that the Rolling Pin is made for casting further magnifies the fact that the spool is 3 1/2" a 4 " model would be better in my opinion. Got to agree on the Aventa Pro , I really enjoy using mine .

 

[108831]

On some of the stretches I fished for big barbel I fished blockend feeder during winter and although I love playing fish on the pin,I want the feeder to hit bottom,directly below where I cast it,which is possible with fixed spool and side cast reels,not so much on centrepins,which can arc on a slightly tight line imo....

 

[tigger]

On some of the stretches I fished for big barbel I fished blockend feeder during winter and although I love playing fish on the pin,I want the feeder to hit bottom,directly below where I cast it,which is possible with fixed spool and side cast reels,not so much on centrepins,which can arc on a slightly tight line imo....

Never had that problem Alan. When I cast I just allow the reel to over run as the end tackle hits the water.
Even if I didn't do that the reels are all free running enough to rotate and give line well in advance of the line being tight enough so as to pull a feeder off a straight drop...if that is what you mean.

 

[108831]

It is,and I watched on waters that were gin clear and full of streamer weed (H.Avon)and wasn't happy where the feeder finished up,my reels spin like tops,still happened,not every time,but I didn't want to be recasting all the time...

 

[mikench]

Glad you got it Mark and at a good price for a new reel.

 

[no-one in particular]

Glad you got it Mark and at a good price for a new reel.

It is second hand Mike with a few small scuffs but compared to the rest of my gear will look pristine. For £25 cannot be bad though, the other one was £70 so £45 for a few scuffs looked worth it. And it will give me the chance to try out a proper one to see if I like it but I am sure I will. Just would have liked one with a sloping casting face in the spool and maybe a wider spool as well but I will see.
Thanks again for pointing it out. They said I should get it by Wed so weather permitting I might get to give it a try before Christmas.

 

[mikench]

I hope you like it .

 

[seth49]

So long as you fill it to the top with line, it will cast well enough, I used to cast across the ribble without any problems, I just put a hundred yards of braid on first, then filled it with mono, and then run it all out in a field, then reversed it so the braid finished up on top, there quite free running as well, and the larger spool helps with the retrieve, I used 20 lb power pro braid, it’s still very thin at that strength, about the same as 4lb mono, so you’ve got a good margin of strength in reserve, if you need it.

 

[no-one in particular]

So long as you fill it to the top with line, it will cast well enough, I used to cast across the ribble without any problems, I just put a hundred yards of braid on first, then filled it with mono, and then run it all out in a field, then reversed it so the braid finished up on top, there quite free running as well, and the larger spool helps with the retrieve, I used 20 lb power pro braid, it’s still very thin at that strength, about the same as 4lb mono, so you’ve got a good margin of strength in reserve, if you need it.

I didn't know braid was that thin Seth, never used it before, do you mean 2lb?. I will get some if it is that thin or would a smaller BS be just as good? I use 4lb mono for my general fishing, in fact nearly all my fishing, I find it the best compromise for what I catch.