What’s Been Bugging Me About Barbel

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For a long time I have been brooding about a barbel technique I flirted with around 1998/1999. In short, to set the scene, I had taken a group of anglers to the Czech Republic in 1998 to fish for barbel, eventually settling on the river Ohre. We were guided by the truly awesome Franta Hanak, a man awesome for his size, generosity and all-round niceness, as much as for his fishing. On the trip Franta taught all of us how to use the Czech nymph technique, which we all take for granted now, but which was new then, and I had been thinking hard about taking it up again when I move West to the Wye. Then, out of the blue, Tim Pryke, who had been on the trip, contacted me with a recent photo of Franta with a barbel and a snowy Czech river in the background. It is always a joy to hear from Tim, one of the true good guys in fishing: doubly so when he scratches a long-term itch like this one.

I don’t know where you stand on fancy-pants techniques for coarse fish. I’m well aware there are those who regard, say, float fishing for barbel with centre pins as arty-farty nonsense when there are feeders and 3lb test curve rods available. Tench are the best example. A lot of the people who come with me only want to use a float, and will have nothing to do with a feeder and long range stuff. Sometimes that holds them back but, equally, sometimes conviction with the float is by far the better way to put tench on the bank. Like float maker maestro Andy Field. I have watched him take a Trent barbel swim to bits on a float whilst feeder fisherman have spent the day watching immobile tips. For me, the lesson always is to have an open mind, and to realise there is never only one way to skin a cat.

But back to the story. So there we are, Tim, me and the rest in the Czech Republic completely unable to catch a barbel, even though the things were everywhere, rolling and flashing their little hearts out. For two days we struggled with corn, meat and the like ’till Franta spent half an hour grubbing under rocks and gave us a tub of neatly shelled caddis grubs. A light switch was flicked. From the very first cast, barbel came thick and fast, and each day following began with an hour’s caddis collecting along the Ohre’s margins. That in itself would have made a good story (and I did begin to use caddis and the like to good effect on the Wye on my return) but there is more to come.

On the penultimate day, I was touch legering on a small weir pool. It was full of fish and I was getting constant plucks and nudges on the line but not a single pull to strike at. After three frustrating hours, Franta appeared with his Czech nymphing outfit and asked if he could have a run through the pool. Now I know you will have guessed the outcome of this, but it is honest to God true! In six casts, Franta had a barbel, a bream, a grayling, a trout, and lost a barbel, and moved on because there were too many coarse fish present. I don’t care if the feeder mob think this is arty-farty nonsense or not: to me this, then and now, is a lesson to take on board and learn from.

The following two summers I did a fair amount of nymph fishing on the Wye to some effect. I had around twenty-some fish on the method, and even had Brian Clarke of the Times (London not Angling!) come to write a piece on me in action. I hooked one within a cast or two but it broke free, like a good few did until I learned some valuable lessons. Those lessons were roughly these.

You can’t fish too light for a big, bold fish like the barbel, and a 7 or 8wt outfit, I realised, was more fair on the fish than a 5wt. Tippet strength has to be 6lbs minimum, and preferably 8lbs. Vitally, I stopped using dropper flies, which got hung up in a fight, and began to use a single nymph on the point. Best patterns seemed to be weighted, tied on a size 8 or 10 hook, and coloured black, dark brown or olive green. Swim choice appeared to be vital. I did far better on moderately-paced glides than anywhere else, especially if these glides were between 4 and 6 feet deep, and ran over gravel and sand. Apart from these slight modifications, the technique was exactly the one Franta used for his trout fishing, and I think most of us would accept the basics are not rocket science. Yes, Franta will outfish someone like me every day of the week, but at least moderate fly-fishers can make a stab at the method, for not a lot of money spent on kit.

So that is where I am Winter 2021, and now both Tim and Franta have bounced back into my life. Tim unearthed the picture of Franta with a hefty winter Czech barbel caught on the fly, and we are in the process of ordering some home-tied flies from him. If we get some summer fishing in this second Covid year, I will bounce baits, and I will freeline and touch leger for barbel. I will float fish too, but I will also get the 7wt fly rod out again after a twenty year rest. Believe me, it is stirring stuff, and it can outwit barbel that have seen more leads, feeders, pellets and boilies than you can shake a 3lb test curve stick at.

What I would like to know, obviously, is whether there is anyone else out there, apart from Tim and me, bugging for barbel. My guess is yes. My guess too, is that they are far further along the way than me at least. It would be good to hear from any of you who have even dabbled in this fascinating approach!

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sometimes conviction with the float is by far the better way to put tench on the bank. Like float maker maestro Andy Field. I have watched him take a Trent barbel swim to bits on a float whilst feeder fisherman have spent the day watching immobile tips. For me, the lesson always is to have an open mind, and to realise there is never only one way to skin a cat.


The float more often than not out fishes the feeder or static bait approach on the Trent these days John, my Barbel fishing is usually done on the float and has been since I wised up a few seasons ago when I realised the fish had wised up to static baits and it's also been a fascinating insight into how these fish mooch around right under our feet even on the widest stretches of river and in much slower moving water.

I do occasionally use the lead but they are measured in fractions of ounces.


What I would like to know, obviously, is whether there is anyone else out there, apart from Tim and me, bugging for barbel. My guess is yes. My guess too, is that they are far further along the way than me at least. It would be good to hear from any of you who have even dabbled in this fascinating approach!

By some coincidence we have a cottage at work which is rented out to a South African guy who does a lot of fluff chucking over in eastern Europe, he has some amazing pictures.

We did the inevitable showing of images to one another on each others' phones and when he saw the Barbel on mine he commented that he'd caught them on the fly and wouldn't mind having a go for them over here.

I will try to get some of those images to post, I can't honour a timescale as I'm currently on furlough from work but when I do eventually return I will give him a knock and mention the thread to him, I'm hoping he might even be persuaded to register and post in directly as many of the images he has are absolutely stunning.

In short yes, although it's not me I do know of at least one person who's enjoyed success bugging for Barbel and has expressed an interest and a certain confidence in having a try over here.

Personally I think there's a whole new world to Barbel and Barbel fishing where if you can get beyond the comparatively crude (but often necessary) tactics which yield enough fish to keep us thinking we're onto a winner there's a secret door to even greater success and satisfaction and the most important thing I can link it to is the most natural presentation matching the most natural location for a bait to be travelling or resting.

Add in a natural bait such as those caddis and, well, light the blue touch paper?

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This is actually very thought provoking, we've all read of hard fished stretches of river when the only time you'll get a big fish is during the night.

I wonder if these older, wiser and bigger fish have learned that they are 'safe' when sticking to natural food types such as caddis and actually feed abundantly during the day on these very same stretches of river albeit on very selective sources of food?

Yes the big fish will still be caught at night but could that possibly be down to their detection of their preferred food sources being impeded and an easy, convenient option in the form of a few pellets or a boilie?
 
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I have fished caddis flies under a small pellet float to pretty good effect using a very light float rod. Not exactly the 'proper' way to fly fish but to me its no different to lure fishing :) Worked really well for grayling and chub on the Itchen when I had a little stretch of it to myself.

I have an old book 'Fly Fishing for Coarse Fish' from the 1960s somewhere, I'll dig it out in a bit and see if that says anything about barbel in it as I'm curious now!
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A few years back I decided to try barbel on the fly, fishing the Wye. I tied up some heavy basic nymphs and caught fish, which was great fun. The main problem was only having access to one stretch I found it very hard to get into position to cover the fish correctly (presentation wise), there were very few fly fishable swims and mainly I needed very low summer levels to wade. Then there were other anglers.
The river being 70 miles away and infrequent visits, I don't fish it now, too many feeder chuckers.
Great sport if you can find the right place and not that difficult, they are willing takers when feeding.
 

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I've targeted barbel on the Ribble with flies with some modest success. Peeping caddis and other tungsten depth charge type nymphs have worked. If it's really deep and fast I'll water knot a short dropper on and lightly pinch on some split shot. I've had several whilst swinging salmon flies and one on a dry G&H sedge intended for trout! It's a work in progress and to be honest I've only tried hard during lulls in the game fishing
 

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I seem to recall reading some years ago of a barbel from the Wye caught by a salmon angler on a fly that would have broken the record had it not been coarse season?
 

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I seem to recall reading some years ago of a barbel from the Wye caught by a salmon angler on a fly that would have broken the record had it not been coarse season?
I think there's one of those tales for every species, I wonder if it's the game angler's casual nature and perhaps a penchant for winding up us coarse types, coupled with a dram or two of liquid and a pound or two of guestimate weight that leads to such stories. The odds of The Wye ever doing a record barbel would be slim due to the cold water, I'd love to stand corrected on this though.
 

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Back in the day when the barbel record stood at 14lb something, think it was shared by 3 fish and one was caught by a salmon angler on a spun dace from the Avon.

OK, that is completely off the top of my head (so could be wrong) going back to childhood when I knew every record fish, names and details - because it seemed important then. I wouldn't have the faintest clue about a single record fish now.
 
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