Trent Gudgeon

[electrical64]

As the humble Goby seems to be making a come back on my stretch of the Trent , it has come to my attention that there doesn,t appear to be a Gudgeon rod on the market. Surely when there appears to be a rod for ever other species of fish or type / style of fishing . Maybe a margin Gudgeon Pole ?
Of course a Commercial version would also be required and a special Pole float with Gudgeon Specialist Emblazoned on the side. A Gudgeon hook , maybe a scaled down Barbel Special !
But seriously , is it me or are manufacturers just taking the p..s !

 

[john step]

Of course we need a different rod for each species. How else are the tackle tarts going to satisfy their hearts desires.:wh:wh:wh

 

[greenie62]

Of course we need a different rod for each species...

- And for each river / water type!
You couldn't possibly imagine using a Trent Gudgeon Specialist rod when you should be using a Commercial Gudgeon Margin Master!mg:

 

[fishing4luckies]

Of course we need a different rod for each species. How else are the tackle tarts going to satisfy their hearts desires.

I've never heard such nonsense!! We need a matching pair of rods for each species. What kind of an amateur tackle tart are you?

 

[maggot_dangler]

I've never heard such nonsense!! We need a matching pair of rods for each species. What kind of an amateur tackle tart are you?

I bet they would even have to have Left and Right on them so that you do not put the wrong rod in the wrong cradle .

PG ...

 

[dorsetandchub]

I kid you not, there was a split cane gudgeon rod for sale on ebay not so long back.....only the one, though

 

[flightliner]

It would be the ultimate of all rods, with all our angling and manufacturing knowledge and expertise it's still way out of reach for any ardent gudgeon catcher.
Carp, Barbel and most other species specific rods are easy enough, any old , stiff stick in the right hands will satisfy most of the ups n downs of daily use by the owner.
But, the humble gudgeon outranks all others, mostly overlooked, harder to locate these days which is perhaps why many of us go for the easy option of the Barbel or Carp.
Hats off to them I say, and the same to the op for letting us know his area of the Trent is seeing a revival of the species.
Great news!!

 

[theartist]

Sherman the Gudgeon has been known to snap beefed up match rods clean in two

 

[nottskev]

Korum do a good unhooking mat

 

[rich66]

Korum do a good unhooking mat

Do they do a weighing sling ?

 

[electrical64]

Well until the correct equipment has been field tested for us by the Pro,s , and made available. I would strongly advise that due to Health and Safety issues no attempt should me made to Capture the Trent Gudgeon !!!!

 

[binka]

I kid you not, there was a split cane gudgeon rod for sale on ebay not so long back.....only the one, though

I posted a thread on it back at the time Phil, a lovely little rod imo.

I was going to post a link to the thread but all the pictures were gone from the eBay listing it related to.

 

[sam vimes]

I suspect that most of us are aware that many species do not really require a specific rod. We also know that rods branded for specific species can usually turn their hand to catching other species of similar stature.

However, I don't believe that the specific rods are not always quite as ridiculous as they sound. I know that most believe that many a barbel rod is rather handy for light carping and bream/tench fishing. Nothing wrong with that at all (and some models will be better than others), until you attempt to utilise certain tactics and they run out of steam. That's where a dedicated bream/tench rod might come into the equation. The average barbel rod is not ideal for distance fishing on huge gravel pits.

Likewise, we are scoffing at the idea of a gudgeon rod, I don't particularly disagree. However, you try to find a genuine light float rod, for all the smaller species, and your choice is going to be rather limited. Such fishing is rather neglected by the tackle trade at present.

Another thing to consider is that many a question is asked about rods for targeting specific fish with certain tactics. I know I've asked about a float rod for targeting roach before. That doesn't mean that I wanted a rod labelled as a roach rod, or that the rods suggested wouldn't be any good for other species, or utilised by me only for roach fishing.

Ultimately, many are happy with the odd rod or two that have to cover all the bases. Others believe that a greater selection of rods cover more variety of species, tactics and venues better. Rather than mock the concept of more specific rods, if you are someone that can genuinely get away with a few rods to cover all, and not have it limit your fishing in any way, be grateful. I'd love it If I could genuinely get away with a small fraction of the gear I own.

 

[lambert1]

There is a specific ground bait that you can buy for Gudgeon now and I for one intend to give it a go! It would be a trip down memory lane to try and catch as many as I can in a day. I doubt I could get to the sort of numbers that I did as a kid, but a day spent in pursuit of these beautiful little fish would be bliss So pleasing to hear that they are making a come back in one river at least. When I was a kid it was Perch that were scarce, but I have frequently caught more Perch than anything else in recent seasons.

 

[electrical64]

Well my original post was just a light hearted dig at the mesmerizing array of Tackle Available today. Luckily for me i spend 95% of my time fishing the Trent , and as most of the gear today seems to be aimed at the Commercial Anglers and of course the Barbel and Carp Men , i,m actually starting to feel somewhat left out. Often confined to a corner of the Tackle shop where the old fasioned
floats and rods are sometimes still available.
I have quite a collection of old high quality float and Feeder rods and am banking on having the last laugh when the Trent gets back to it,s glory days
Ebay will be stuffed with Pellet , Carp and Splash Waggler rods:wh

 

[binka]

I have quite a collection of old high quality float and Feeder rods and am banking on having the last laugh when the Trent gets back to it,s glory days

Well...

I firmly believe we've hit the barbel peak and are now on the downhill run to those former glory days, if indeed they can stay in cyclic sync with today's often crystal clear water. There are certainly a lot of dace in the river of late and the barbel lads have been whinging a plenty.

Apart from the ones that can 'go with the flow' if you know what I mean

Not so much a case of mourning a loss as celebrating a rebalance

One day... One day...

We will once again trot with pound bottoms...

 

[peter crabtree]

If I draw a gudgeon peg my first choice is a 3/4m whip with flick tip.
Never fished the Trent mind you but it works ok on the Thames.
The Sensas black groundbait is hard to find in tackle shops but is available online.

Sensas Gudgeon Black Groundbait 1kg

Not essential though, I just keep pinging pinkies or maggots at them and they soon find them....

 

[bracket]

In 1951 I was in possession of the quintessential gudgeon rod and used it to great effect. The definitive spec was a 10ft garden cane married to the same length of silk line a porcupine float and a gilt crystal hook tied to cat gut. It fished like a dream. I have to confess it was not infallible as on occasion I would catch roach. Strange you never see one nowadays, wished I had kept it, be worth a fortune on ebay. Pete

 

[flightliner]

I,ve almost reached the point where I,d rather see an angler showing off a few Trent gudgeon in the angling press than another big Barbel, far more interesting and newsworthy (and I do like Barbel btw)!!.

 

[binka]

In 1951 I was in possession of the quintessential gudgeon rod and used it to great effect. The definitive spec was a 10ft garden cane married to the same length of silk line a porcupine float and a gilt crystal hook tied to cat gut. It fished like a dream. I have to confess it was not infallible as on occasion I would catch roach. Strange you never see one nowadays, wished I had kept it, be worth a fortune on ebay. Pete

And surely...

Preceded only by the bamboo stick with a net on the end, in terms of an angling career.

They were 10p in my day (mid-seventies) and you could always tell who would progress to be a proper angler as they always avoided the bright, leary colours mg:

I can recall as if it was yesterday, fishing in my local Titchfield Park as a five or six year old and poking my net deep beyond sight under an overhang close to a waterfall as something then began to thrash around so much in the net it had my arms going around to the motion.

Shortly afterwards, as I pulled the net back out, a very startled rat made good its escape over the top