Ok decided to completely go against the dead bait as it just smells and I dont like the smell of "dead" fish. going to pop to the local tackle shop and pick up a couple of lures and spinners.... will post results if still interested.
Went for 2 hours as that's all the spare time I had and It wasn't bad... I caught a Perch first cast on a size 5 spinner yet the perch was around 7oz greedy fella. I moved every 20 minutes and found a nice little area where I could see lots of fish activity. I Tried everything but nothing was happening for the 20 minutes I was there on spinners.
I decided to give it another 10 minutes with my trusty SG dirty roach jelly lure, I didnt catch any pike but one of around 4-5lb took my lure right as I was going to lift it from the water. I was buzzing after that because I'd at least seen one!. Going again Friday but this time!!! I will be using deadbaits and maggots. I'm feeling confident this will work, and maybe should of been less naive and just went with deads in the first place