Nice one, Eric! Not such a bad start, eh? Over the years (the decades!) I've spent a great deal of time, money and effort trying to get to grips with the likes of Lomond, Awe, Llandegfedd, Ken, Bassenthwaite and so on WITHOUT the aid of a fish-finder. Given the enormity of some of these waters, and the heavy odds against sorting-out a fish, I've concluded that fish-finders - on balance - are ok (This is an old argument, I know) But somehow, it still rankles with me to read (anywhere, Eric) of individual fish being located. then fished for. I can't quite bring myself to love a fish-locating device. Nonetheless, if I were back on Lomond today, or bobbing about on Windermere, I'm sure I'd want one! Thanks for letting us know of the day the Earth moved for you - couldn't you find anywhere better than the back-seat of a car, Eric!