BFS, Ned Rigs & Florocarbon Mainline.

Pikerwoods

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Now I see things have moved on in u/l fishing. What are Ned rigs as arn't they just like bottom bouncing kopytos. Also see every one is buying BFS tackle but using florocarbon mainline. I do like idea of modern day multipliers for light fishing, less messing about casting with fixed spool reels and you have quicker contact with taking fish. Seen combos from Needham's at good price and looked good on YouTube.
 

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With a Ned rig the soft plastic floats so at rest it sits upright on the bottom, when you twitch the lure it moves forward and then slowly rises back into the upright position allowing you to fish it super slowly.

IMO whilst you can use a baitcaster to cast light weights they're not as well suited to it as a fixed spool reel, it's fashion over function.
 

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??? Translation please, what is BFS for FFS???

Bait Finesse System. Comes out of Japan, an ultralight method they use for catching bass. It’s now catching anglers here in the UK, some of the prices for rods and reels are insane. I nearly got sucked in myself but came to my senses just in time before the credit cards took a bashing. There’s an angler who use to promote his YouTube videos on here who fishes the Stour through Canterbury much like myself, the combination of his rod and reel price is approx £700, not much like myself. He’s already snapped two of the rods!
 

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As much as I like lure fishing I won't be buying into this method. Checked on line and the prices are in my mind ridiculous.
 

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BFS.

Sounds like inventing new Acronyms is the new way of reinventing the wheel to sell more tackle.

CRS anyone ? ...Cane rod system...its a winner. :)
 

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Some of the lure prices on sale from Japan on ebay are just as ridiculous, Heddon lures at £200 -£300 I suppose some one must be buying them.
CRS Cane rod system could be the next must have. I see fibreglass rods are making a come back.
 
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BFS.

Sounds like inventing new Acronyms is the new way of reinventing the wheel to sell more tackle.

CRS anyone ? ...Cane rod system...its a winner. :)
Embarrassingly I had my 31/2lb lure caught Severn perch on a cane rod, the fixed spool was pretty old too! If anyone wants to offer me $400 for a light Hardy Wanless then I'm all ears.
 

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I have, after doing some fishing recently with a mate who has what could be referred to as a BFS setup considered it. Initially I was skeptical of these potentially expensive reels value but there is a level of control and certain casts you simply cannot make with a fixed spool reel, at least not with as much control your often casting TIGHT to features.
For example casting into an upstream tree pocket, it requires you to side cast and bend the entry. Side casting in the fashion is easier with a bait caster. Equally if your casting to features it allows you to stop the “bait” instantly in the air, with a fixed spool you can really only slow.
Fluorocarbon is often used as its more forgiving, less prone to bird nesting etc for beginners so I’m advised.
The Ned rig is really just a way of drop shotting at range or on the move from the bank. The idea is to achieve an incredibly slow retrieve with the movement imparted in the pause, kinda the opposite to jigging.
 
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You don't need to spend a fortune to get into BFS. 'Pikerwoods' mentioned 'Needham's Specialist Tackle' in his initial post, and this would be a very good place to start.

I began BFS fishing with a cheap rod and reel combo I bought off Ebay for around £100. It wasn't very good. The rod broke first time out and the reel felt 'cheap' and wasn't at all easy to cast small lures with. I got my money back and then did the research I should have done in the first place.

Long story short: I bought a Tsurinoya 'Wolf' baitcasting rod (£49.99) and Tsurinoya Silver Fox SF50 baitcasting reel (£62.50) and haven't looked back. Both are excellent pieces of kit and great value for money. I have subsequently spent a bit more on upgrades but the Tsurinoya tackle compares very favourably to more expensive items. One advantage with the SF50 reel is that you can buy a spare spool (£14.99) which is very simple to change and gives you the option of trying both braid and fluorocarbon.

If I can just add to the braid vs. fluorocarbon discussion; I think both have their place. One of the advantages of fishing fluorocarbon straight through to the lure is that this eliminates the need for a knot to connect a leader to your main line. I've used braid as light as 6 lb. b/s and believe me, you've got to be very careful knotting this to fluorocarbon. It is so fine in diameter it has a habit of cutting into the fluorocarbon when you draw the knot tight. The heavier the braid, and the heavier the fluorocarbon, the less of an issue this is. By the time you get up to 10 lb. braid and 6 or 8 lb. fluorocarbon things are a lot easier.

The other thing with fluorocarbon, compared to braid in lighter breaking strains, is the abrasion resistance. Fluorocarbon is very good for this, but light braid isn't. I tend to use 4 or 5 feet of fluorocarbon as a leader because of this, although I know others only use a couple of feet.

With regard to fixed spool reels vs. bait casting reels, I think both have their place and the choice is very much with each individual. I've used bait casters for all my lure fishing (except drop shot) for a great many years and they suit me better. If you're not used to using multipliers or bait casters then BFS fishing with tiny lures probably isn't the best place to start. It is a more challenging way, but ultimately more satisfying way of fishing I think.
 
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