Chub straightening hooks
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Blimey, I never knew anything about hooks straightening while fishing for chub. I'm new to Chub fishing and I'm soaking up chub related articles, books, threads and dvd's like a dry sponge.
I do all my chub fishing on a very wild and snaggy small river and have never considered hook straightening. I've only used Guru QM1's in various sizes and caught chub 6-7lbs with no probs. The little buggers have been stuck in loads of snaggs.
Should I be looking at different hooks?
I do all my chub fishing on a very wild and snaggy small river and have never considered hook straightening. I've only used Guru QM1's in various sizes and caught chub 6-7lbs with no probs. The little buggers have been stuck in loads of snaggs.
Should I be looking at different hooks?
What for? You have had no problems so far so don't worry about it most hooks get straightened by poor playing of the fish, you seem to be doing fine so don't worry. Just keep in contact with your catch and you will be fine forget all about the authors making money by promoting this and that.
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Ta matey. Didn't want to be hurting the little suckers. The end of my trotting rod is very soft so I'm hoping this helps.
chav professor
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I think the general consensus is that chub are never likely to straighten a hook. When using light lines and finer hooks for maggot fishing - its the hook length that fails - not the hook for me........
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john conway (CSG - ACA)
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Never had a chub straighten any hook. (Mind you, I dont use tiny tiny hooks made from hairspring wire) With a chub transferring the hook to a snag, which they seem at times to do almost at will, is a different matter. To attribute hook straightening to the chub is pure fantasy. Ive always said that some angling writers material should be classified as 'fantasy and fiction'
"This writer has read it somewhere and just perpetuated the myth IMO"
Can I guess who Christian
I'm with John H on this one, I've never had a chub straighten out a hook, however, my smallest hook would be a size 8 and my lowest BS line would be 6lb. With any good quality hook of this size your line should break first. I've heard of pike lads straightening out hooks but they are using 50lb braid.
I can't ever remember any CSG members commenting on chub straightening out hooks, and from 1972 to 2011 we are at 16,000 or more reported 4lb plus chub. However, that’s not to say it could never happen but it would be far more productive to concentrate on knots and line abrasion.
I have never had a chub or any other fish straighten a hook, I always use the correct gauge for the type of fish I am after, Ie, super specialist for chub, barbel and tench, but to use thick boille hooks for chub fishing IMO is just over kill and not very sporting!!
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alan whittington
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Confused dot com,if fishing for roach,a greedy chevin takes the bait,presented on a fine wire hook,if you hold it,as hold you must,your hook will straighten,unless you call fine wire hooks drennan super specialists lol.
chav professor
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Not really, even fine wire hooks (the kamasan hooks size 18 to nylon I get tyed to 1lb14oz straight out of a packet) never straighten when landing big chub........ If i am particularly clumsy the line snaps well before the wire bend gives.
Never tryed to hook and hold on fine lines and small hooks - ends in disasaster. best to let the fish run on light tension and kind of guide it away from grief. Big chub pull back hard if you give them the handle - on fine tackle they seem a bit confused as to what is going on and are quite compliant.
sam vimes
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I'm with you. That's exactly the circumstance I've had chub straighten hooks. If that's a problem for the unbelievers then they'd best take it up with the various purveyors of hooks to nylon. If they are totally unbalanced, so be it. Bought hooks to nylon are usually what I use for general fishing.
However, if any chub manages to straighten the type of hook that I normally use for carp and barbel I'll weep. It'll have to be huge as I've never had a carp or barbel straighten me out on such kit yet.
chav professor
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I wouldn't put myself in the total 'unbelievers' camp. I would say it is incredibally unusual, to the point that if your tackle is balanced (light line, small fine hook and soft match rod) - it shouldn't happen.
Thats not to say there are finer patterns specifically designed for roach, or softness in a batch of hooks that would otherwise cause no problems unless a larger species engages.
the originol tome of the thread was an angler writing an article for a monthly publication stating 'drennan continental bollie hooks' are appropriate - in larger sizes as 'chub cannot be underestimated'. Now you could land a 100lb catfish on those hooks without any fuss.
There maybe other practical reasons for using heavy guage hooks, but i don't think a chub could realistically straighten a size 8 - 2 super specialist or similar pattern.........
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My time in match fishing in years past have me of the experience,that when i fished for roach,with rods of the ilk of titan 2000's,lines down to a pound-pound and a half,if a chub is hooked near-ish to snags on a fine wire hook,the hook will open,how much depends on ho aggressive you have to pull,usually i would compromise the strength of wire if chub were a serious threat,but if the roach dont play ball then down we have to go,making risks more obvious,the question was about straightening hooks and in my experience it can happen,not so much on rivers like the Trent,generally,but the Ouse,Teme,even your Wensum,if fallen trees are present,difference is on there the roach arent there,like they were,are they?