the less civilised amongst our ranks.
I am not so sure about that, I have never found a pile of **** and toilet paper on a day ticket water swim.
I dont think club anglers are any different or better to any other anglers except they think they are. Its just the way of the world, they have a vested interest, they have paid a lot of money and they know they are more likely to get caught and punished. I bet most of them think nothing of throwing a fag packet or a napkin down at a football match the same as lots of other people, they just don't like it when others do it to them.
I think clubs just never want to spend any money especially on day ticket waters or any money to better the lot of their members or their day ticketing guests, they treat them like scum. I mentioned in the HDYGT thread four weeks ago about a day ticket on a lovely non carp lake on a farm that had plumbed in a nice washing station with antiseptic wash and a litter bin because they cared, and it was pristine; never seen that on a club water, day ticket or otherwise. Just one small thing but why people are turning their backs on clubs, they don't care other than taking your money. I mean they would just never think of doing that, save the money and stuff the members and double stuff their day ticketing guests.. Its an attitude that modern anglers don't want anymore.
The only time I have seen anything done on a club day ticket water is just up the road from me, they built some nice platforms and a fence round a lake, guess what; they got a lottery grant for it, all those years of taking taking day ticket money and never built one platform for disabled or anyone else and its still a rat infested **** hole. Hardly anyone fishes it now. Not one of them would think of cleaning it up or spending a penny on it. They just don't get the modern angling world and they are paying the price, rightly so.
Sorry, I know I am going to be accused of just a ranter but its the simple truth, I have been to two pristine day ticket waters, simple rules, the owners have chatted to me, not feigned interest, They obviously care about their waters and me, what I think etc, they are kept clean and money re invested in their waters so I have as nice a day as possible, I have made instant friends on them and I can spend or not spend as much as I want to and its just a better world for me. I wish it was all like that.