Sorry tinker I misunderstood you, thought you being pro canoeist.
God forbid are you confusing me with Benny
Sorry tinker I misunderstood you, thought you being pro canoeist.
shared access is simply pie in the sky!
Not in Wales it seems. Welsh Gvt MP John Griffiths - minister for sport would you believe - proclaims loudly that rivers (ie a sporting resource) should be shared. If he get this though I think I'll share some resources with him. Maybe by organizing a motor cycle trail-bike rally on his golf course next time he's playing. Who would care to join me?
I'm not so sure that open access is such a bad idea. Rivers and waterways should be there for all to enjoy whether you're angling or canoeing. Who's to say that canoeists are not equally as passionate about our waterways and the environment as Anglers?
[QUOTEWould you like to see paddlers dragging canoes across spawning grounds when fish are spawning?
They do a litter pick once a year on my beat of the wye (without my permission). The rest of the year I pick up after them!I know of many kayak clubs/groups who have done a litter pick on sections of rivers.
My mate was salmon fishing with the fly on a pool of the Welsh Dee on club water. Canoeists, (I refuse to call them "paddlers", it implies something cute, child-like and nice) that weren't authorised to be there, came down through his pool. When he remonstrated with them that they had no permission to be there he was told to **** off! Additionally, when the heroes got out of casting range they repeatedly smacked their paddles on the water to ruin his pool. They were scum who feel they are entitled to go anywhere they please.
Canoes and rafts have ruined large sections of one of the greatest salmon rivers in the world, The Tay.
Coming to a river near you....soon!
Well i can see why some of you would feel like that after such bad experiences. Hopefully this is just a minority giving Canoeists a bad name. People must have had some positive experiences? A canoeist rescuing snagged tackle or similar?
My experience is the same Mr Blanker. It don't help that the 'governing bodies' of the canoe fraternity wilfully promote unlawful canoeing and pretend the laws are inaccurate. Naturally this helps to promote some canoeists viewpoint that they have every right to be there. They don't.There are some canoeists that stick to doing it within the law and have some respect for other water users but their numbers are far outweighed by those that do not, unfortunately this minority get tarred with the same brush as the majority who couldn't care less.
My experience is the same Mr Blanker. It don't help that the 'governing bodies' of the canoe fraternity wilfully promote unlawful canoeing and pretend the laws are inaccurate. Naturally this helps to promote some canoeists viewpoint that they have every right to be there. They don't.