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Frothey
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if you use the bike chain or chunky type of chains the dont swing either....
oh ok. I only had ones without chains (like the specialist fox ones now). Bought them in about 98'. They were marked as carp ones back then. Although i have to say i do like the release mechanism on the Fox Butt Swingers for holding and releasing the line. I find them more sensitive aswell.
The Bone Collector
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And not forgetting the trusty old perforated aluminium maggot tin lid, with the catgut trapped under it Woody, Ahhh
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Cakey
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Im still on MB swingers must be getting on for 20 years old now
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Cakey
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because of the adjustable weight on the arm they are suitable for margin fishing or at 500 yards
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Cakey
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but I do like the looks of Stevie Nevilles danglers
The Bone Collector
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Will suit those who margin fish at 500 yards Cakes.
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Cakey
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yep
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Cakey
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did springers ever catch on ?
The Bone Collector
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Yes for as long as they remained in place...
then the first strike usually saw them fly off into the lake.
then the first strike usually saw them fly off into the lake.
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Cakey
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obsolete ?
The Bone Collector
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As a Heron.
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Cakey
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I see
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The type of buzzer also needs to come into the equation,if working on a wheel or vibration,also type of rig...
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why ?
The Bone Collector
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yes why?
Vibration type (delkims) tend to react more to wind movement, whereas roller wheels have to physically move the line. Wind movement therefore does not show up.
I use danglers with delkims, but adjust the sensitivity depending on the wind. The insicators themselves were made for me but have solar size threading. You can then add weight to the bottom to counteract any drag. I have used them for margins up to maximium casting distance, and from flat calm to hooligan weather!
I use danglers with delkims, but adjust the sensitivity depending on the wind. The insicators themselves were made for me but have solar size threading. You can then add weight to the bottom to counteract any drag. I have used them for margins up to maximium casting distance, and from flat calm to hooligan weather!
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Frothey " You don`t get dropbacks with running leads and properly slack Lines " .
I can`t get my head around this , i take it that you mean that you have so much slack out that the carp won`t move the lead on the run and the bobbins are bobbing like clappers ,but what happens when the carp runs towards you , the bobbins still go mad with all the slack but with no indication that it may be close in your swim untill you reel in and make contact ,which if fishing short range could be a disavantage .
Surely a semi slack line and a possible dropback setup would an advantage ?
Please explain Dave ,as i have said ,i cannot get my head around it .
I can`t get my head around this , i take it that you mean that you have so much slack out that the carp won`t move the lead on the run and the bobbins are bobbing like clappers ,but what happens when the carp runs towards you , the bobbins still go mad with all the slack but with no indication that it may be close in your swim untill you reel in and make contact ,which if fishing short range could be a disavantage .
Surely a semi slack line and a possible dropback setup would an advantage ?
Please explain Dave ,as i have said ,i cannot get my head around it .
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Frothey
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the lead doesnt move, the slack pulls through it. try it in your garden and remember that being in water amplifies the effect
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Dave , I understand the logic behind the slack line theory but don`t understand the lack of a dropback indication .
With a "normal " setup ,if there is a long dropback ,you know the lead has moved and maybe the fish is running towards you ,so you wind down and hit it, how can you do this on a total slack line with no dropback , the fish could be 100 yds away or 10 yds away , do you just reel in like the clappers untill you find the fish and hope for the best ?
With a "normal " setup ,if there is a long dropback ,you know the lead has moved and maybe the fish is running towards you ,so you wind down and hit it, how can you do this on a total slack line with no dropback , the fish could be 100 yds away or 10 yds away , do you just reel in like the clappers untill you find the fish and hope for the best ?