Touch ledgering

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Is touch ledgering done with just a hook and bb shot weight just above?? Is a quiver tip needed for this technique?

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Is touch ledgering done with just a hook and bb shot weight just above?? Is a quiver tip needed for this technique?

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It's better imo if you're using something like an Avon tip as opposed to a quivertip Jamie as quivertips can absorb too much of what would otherwise be transmitted to your fingers.

It doesn't really matter what's down the line in terms of shot, it's the fact that you're feeling for bites as opposed to looking for them on a tip... Use whatever amount of shot you need to get the presentation right.

A really rewarding way of fishing, especially when you're concentrating hard and old whiskers comes along and chucks a hand grenade into everything :D
 

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Think it's been mentioned before, normal feeder rig , or as you describe
you keep your finger on the line and feel for the bait movement and activity of the fish. Fish taking the bait can be like a faint tremble to a huge pull.You with time can tell the movement of the bait on the River bed.
When you get a take there is no doubt.
 

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Thanks for replies, I will give this a go tomorrow, No Avon or quiver tip though. But if I keep finger on line should feel it anyway right and that's when to strike?

If I went with the shot, Would 1 be ok? Or should I aim for more.
 
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If I went with the shot, Would 1 be ok? Or should I aim for more.

It's a very open question mate depending mainly on the strength of flow if you're fishing a river, just go with whatever you need to do to achieve what you want to do in terms of presentation regardless of the size and amount of shot required :)

If you can find a crease or an eddy it's good to go light and feel the bait bounce into an area were food would naturally collect, bites in these areas are often the most savage and unmistakable as fish expect to find food in these areas and will take with confidence.
 

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Is touch ledgering done with just a hook and bb shot weight just above?? Is a quiver tip needed for this technique?

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You don't say whether you are fishing in a river or a Stillwater Jamie.
Although it can be productive on a Stillwater it's on rivers and streams where it comes into its own.

I was first introduced to it by my mate Budgie when I first fished the Kennet back in 1975 when I caught my very first barbel and I remember it like it was yesterday: It was just like a Mr Crabtree strip; I was using a 10ft MKIV Carp rod and a Mitchell 300 reel loaded with 8lb line with a 5 SSG link leger and a size 4 Specialist hook with luncheonmeat as bait.
"Cast three quarters of the way across the river and then tighten up any slack" Budgie said " then place your line over your finger and feel for any indications" he continued, and I could feel the link leger moving over gravel and then stop. "You should be able to feel some streamer weed rubbing on your line" Budgie said; noticing that I was very close to some streamer weed; and I did, "you will know if you have a bite as it is ......." and at that second I felt a couple of plucks followed immediately by my rod almost being yanked out of my hands and I had my very first Barbel on the end of my line. I will never forget that moment.

I have touched legered thousands of times since that night whenever I am fishing one rod on a river for Barbel and Chub I promise it is a very productive method.

I don't use it when I am fishing stillwaters as It's just not the same because I don't get to feel as much about what is happening down below (as I do on a river) and usually all I feel is when a fish tears off with the bait and not much else; so other methods of bite detection are almost as good or better on a Stillwater; although it can stilll be effective.

Keith
 
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Yes, you can touch leger in still waters but IMHO it comes into its own on running water as others have said.....
If I were fishing a still water, particularly at this time of year when fingers start to feel the effect of cold and when the bite ratio might start to drop, I would definitely go for some form of indicator or quiver tip. IMHO I think a quiver tip is as good as any for positive indication...Even a 6oz roach will put a bend into a fine tip!!!
The shot you need; Again as others have said, it really depends (on many factors) but the first one is how FAR you want to cast!! You may get away with a single swan shot close in but need a bomb of 1/2oz to cast some distance..

Have a swot up on the internet - -lots of stuff on this subject...................

Let us know how you get on, though !
 
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