Fair enough. My highlighting was to draw attention to the tone of the post as well as the content, which seemed needlessly rude to anyone who has a different view on the place of carp in mixed fisheries. I appreciate you said several things, which included "allowing" moans about carp - but only when you think them legitimate.
Did I really ignore the new carp waters which were not pre-existing fisheries?
Hard to see how. I began by saying "Commercials aside" and restricted my comments to occasions from my personal experience when local clubs have mismanaged fisheries by opting to "improve" the fishing by introducing a consignment of carp, not reckoning the effect further down the line, and instead succeeded in messing it up in several ways.
Shades of grey and careful distinctions, which seem to get lost when everything is "totally" this or that.
I've no problem with people not wanting to catch carp. I'm not of dissimilar mind. I've no problem with people having a different opinion, provided it's rational and justified. Unfortunately, there are more than the odd poster that just like to moan about carp and carpers. It's been that way for quite some time on here and plenty of their complaints are anything but well reasoned and rational.
If carpers moan about bream, tench, or any other "nuisance" fish, they are generally pilloried by the more allround angler, that tend to make up the bulk of the regular posters on here, and rightly so. However, you can't have it all ends up. It's a little hypocritical to complain about the carpers with bad attitudes towards other fish when demonstrating similar disdain towards a species which you don't happen to like, or want to catch. Yes, a carp crashing the party when you are fishing for smaller species can be frustrating, but no more so than a barbel when you are trotting for roach on light gear, a dirty great trout when you are trotting for grayling, or a pike turning up when you are bit bashing. All are just par for the course and part and parcel of angling.
I'm not suggesting that you ignored anything other than the part of my original badly misquoted post in which I stated that I fully accept that an anti-carp moan is quite justified when a water was previously a bream, tench, crucian, roach etc water that's had its character significantly altered by the introduction of carp. It's a crying shame when that happens. The only saving grace is that an awful lot of carp waters weren't pre-existing waters. They are gravel pits or purpose built waters that have had carp from the very beginning of their existence.
Sadly, the introduction of carp seems to be the way of things in many cases. A club that wishes to sell tickets, or a commercial that wants to make money seems to have to have them. I know of quite a few non-carp club and day ticket waters that are all but devoid of anglers. I fish a small club pond fairly regularly that has no carp, just tench, crucians, roach and bream. I've yet to see any sign of anyone else fishing there, let alone actually meeting someone fishing. Locally, at least, there as many non-carp day ticket or club waters that have been lost to angling completely than have been lost to carp.
It's a similar situation to rivers. Those with a veritable horde of barbel are likely to be comparatively busy. Those without are barely fished.
It's a modern reality that many people want to catch carp (and barbel on the rivers), hence the proliferation of waters that hold them. Railing against it is no more logical than complaining that there's a Burger King opening in town because you don't like burgers.