cg74
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Anyone????
3 foot twitch
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wes79
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Hi thecrow, I've been reading a few threads on line elsewhere regarding the chap and from what I can gather he has been accused of all sorts of stuff.
Not very sportsman like on both sides of the camp (if its all true that is)
mg: lots of petty insults and even the mention of sueing people etc etc but round my neck of the woods fish theft from club waters (including bucketing of mature Barbel), poaching (by locals & gangs of eastern europeans), some serious pollution scares, destruction of fish habitat by vandals & EA's own preference of one species over another and the 300+ supermarket trolley's left to decay and silt up some of the best weir pools there are to be fished....... are just a handful of some of the more serious issues effecting the fishermen here, makes Easom just look like another distraction really.---------- Post added at 12:02 ---------- Previous post was at 11:59 ----------
I have no idea tbh, a quick google and nothing is showing.
flightliner
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£11-50 per kilo I'm given to believe.
thecrow
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Hi thecrow, I've been reading a few threads on line elsewhere regarding the chap and from what I can gather he has been accused of all sorts of stuff.
Not very sportsman like on both sides of the camp (if its all true that is)
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I have no idea tbh, a quick google and nothing is showing.
And how seriously do you take anglers being threatened with violence? like I said if you knew but you obviously do not.
wes79
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Very seriously, I know very little about the guy as a person so I am not saying you are lying but these are pretty big accusations to be fair and without some proof outside of the internet slander will only contradict the facts, like for example he is still able to regularly fish or frequent an area that poses a risk of both retaliation to himself (or a follow up from his threats) while also risking losing everything he has tried to build up around him as he should expect to be arrested for threatening anyone or be away on trick or treat night.
Anyone trying that around here would need to be a fairly strong swimmer or have a private army allowing an otherwise undisturbed fishing session which hardly seems worth it for selling a few packs of dodgy bollies.
Has he threatened you personally?
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thecrow
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Its obvious that we have different opinions on the man and his bait, I think it should be left there.
Just one thing I NEVER EVER LIE.
wes79
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I don't make any such accusations (re-read my reply).
If someone has broke the law and there is clear proof of that then why hasn't he been arrested, its either because people don't want to stand by there claims and effectively allow a so called criminal to continue in his known actions, prefering to slander behind a keyboard in the comfort of their home or its not based on evidence at all (may as well call it popularity of opinion) . I make no apologies for identifying the logical error in this case.
Peter Jacobs: can you let me know you recieved the reply I sent you to your warning, I have no way of knowing you did, thanks in advance.
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It was not a warning as such just a note to tell you why we have to protect FM's interests when a topic starts to get a little difficult.
It was not aimed at any one individual, but yes, I received your reply, many thanks.
It was not aimed at any one individual, but yes, I received your reply, many thanks.
nicepix
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From what I have seen no one has accused anyone of any criminal act. There have been allegations made that have resulted in one person making noises about taking other people to court for libel. However, any solicitor worth his salt would advise their client that 'mere vulgar abuse' such as calling derogatory nicknames does not constitute slander or libel.
There have also been product reviews posted online that have not done the company any favours. That is life. Look on eBay, Amazon and many other retail sites and leaving feedback is positively promoted. Some of it helps companies, some doesn't, but unless there is some malicious intent, feedback is a good way of ordinary people avoiding scams and worthless products. Unless you can prove that the negative feedback is malicious and groundless then you can do little about it.
thecrow
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cg74
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HHHHHow much!!
When compared with other similar products (that have proven track records) it's around twice the price!
I guess that's for run of the mill feed baits, and there is a 'specialised' hookbait as well, that'll cost in the region of £5-£6 for a 150gram tub?
Neil Maidment
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From my stand point that all "barbel are basically stupid" and the fact all bar one of my catches this year have fallen courtesy of my nationwide bait supplier (Tescos Tinned Meat Section), I do not have much interest in "specialised baits". The Sonu range is pretty good though!
I've never met Richard but do know some of the historic background and accusations surrounding the ongoing development of his business. Along with anyone else who sticks their head above the parapet, he will need a thick skin and more to survive.
I do know, and have fished with, quite of few of his band of "testers". Decent, honest anglers, paying for the products they are testing. Plenty of fish caught from a whole string of different venues.
His general pricing appears to be around £7.25/£7.50 per kilo (boilies/pastes), not as stated above and catch fish. But whether they are any better or worse than the myriad of options available to those who wish to use them, only time will tell.
I've never met Richard but do know some of the historic background and accusations surrounding the ongoing development of his business. Along with anyone else who sticks their head above the parapet, he will need a thick skin and more to survive.
I do know, and have fished with, quite of few of his band of "testers". Decent, honest anglers, paying for the products they are testing. Plenty of fish caught from a whole string of different venues.
His general pricing appears to be around £7.25/£7.50 per kilo (boilies/pastes), not as stated above and catch fish. But whether they are any better or worse than the myriad of options available to those who wish to use them, only time will tell.
nicepix
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The price I quoted was posted on BFW by one of the bait testers. It was also stated that those who are bait testers receive a discount on the RRP but after taking into account postal costs the actual end price was more then the RRP of similar products.
wes79
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Unless you discount threatening anglers with violence then the power of suggestion is all that was needed, especially if any person that has such strong negative views about someone is a bit shy to provide first hand accounts of why they should, chinese whispers have to start somewhere.
If you say so, Crow
Broken my pb brown Trout earlier today, shall we celebrate it together?
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thecrow
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[/QUOTE]Unless you discount threatening anglers with violence then the power of suggestion is all that was needed, especially if any person that has such strong negative views about someone is a bit shy to provide first hand accounts of why they should, chinese whispers have to start somewhere.
If you say so, Crow
Broken my pb brown Trout earlier today, shall we celebrate it together? :w
Not a snowballs chance in hell, Trout are such awful creatures unless they are on a plate.
I gave you the chance to ask me to PM you with the details, you didn't take the chance and it wont be offered again, PB Trout nothing my grandson won all of his races again today, another trophy in the cabinet.
Looks like you got that one in just under the bar - depending where you were fishing - well done!:thumbs:
wes79
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The power of suggestion that a certain angler threatens people with violence was all you really offered, unless you arrived at that comment through first hand account (which I asked and got no reply by PM or otherwise) then its just another chinese whisper
Well done to your grandson!
PS
I put the trout back
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Thanks greenie62
Neil Maidment
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The prices came from his FB page. Wasn't aware you quoted any prices. I was referring to Mick's (Flightliner) post. He certainly has a growing group of testers and anglers happy to be associated with his products. Some of whom I know quite well and are very fine anglers. But it's not for me, for the most part, I'll stick to my cans of meat.
flightliner
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Neil,someone asked for the price of the 3foot twitch boillies, I just happened to see it mentioned on another website being stated by another angler.
I just passed it onto FM-- hence my " I'm given to believe" end of sentance.
Personally I seldom if ever use boillies these days when barbel fishing, like you, ledgering a piece of meat provides all the fish I need and more, if I"m float fishing for them a few maggots on a size ten barbless hook or maybe a piece of corn will more than suffice.
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