Centre Pin Reels

[George387]

I think you'll soon get fed up using an old stick for a rod George, save it for summer and shuv it in the greenhouse where it belongs :wh

Tigger
Ive went the other way believe it or not, this year put my carbon fly rods away and bought a cane fly rod and used it all season, then refurbished the 11ft trotting rod now bought a 2nd cane trotting rod, Im going backwards but I get sheer enjoyment & pleasure from them that I dont with my carbon rods.

Ive got the old discontinued drennan drx's in 14ft, 15ft, 16ft & 18ft and thought they were the dogs, and Ive tried normark, daiwa and others now all my carbon in is the rod racks and certainly wont see the rest of the grayling season ....thats been booked by the cane rods...lol

 

[tigger]

Tigger
Ive went the other way believe it or not, this year put my carbon fly rods away and bought a cane fly rod and used it all season, then refurbished the 11ft trotting rod now bought a 2nd cane trotting rod, Im going backwards but I get sheer enjoyment & pleasure from them that I dont with my carbon rods.

Ive got the old discontinued drennan drx's in 14ft, 15ft, 16ft & 18ft and thought they were the dogs, and Ive tried normark, daiwa and others now all my carbon in is the rod racks and certainly wont see the rest of the grayling season ....thats been booked by the cane rods...lol

George...if cane rods are tweaking your bits then great but I think I'll be sticking with carbon.
I reckon you'll be getting the carbon back out of the racks once the novelty wears off though

 

[George387]

George...if cane rods are tweaking your bits then great but I think I'll be sticking with carbon.
I reckon you'll be getting the carbon back out of the racks once the novelty wears off though

£50 says I wont...lol

 

[tigger]

£50 says I wont...lol

For 50 ripp's i'd use a tomato stick n'all

 

[chav professor]

I get great pleasure from using cane rods - it does add a dimension of spirituality - I know, WTF. carbon fibre is brutally efficient but lacks the charm of landing a fish on a natural material. For me I am passionate about classic fishing literature and it helps me to connect. For me, fishing is an escape from the humdrum of everyday life, its something real and tangible.

As a teacher, it never ceases to amaze me how tackle conscience kids are - in particular the Carp anglers. Its all about the label, matching rods, pods, alarms, bollies etc.......... You won't get a matching set of cane rods, they almost have a Stradivaries quality.

Its a statement of rebelion against the over comercialisation of the gentle art. Caught loads of nice fish on both carbon fibre, glass fibre - (back in the day), and now cane. Never once have I felt compromised as I choose the rod that most suits my mood or needs.

 

[tigger]

I get great pleasure from using cane rods - it does add a dimension of spirituality - I know, WTF. carbon fibre is brutally efficient but lacks the charm of landing a fish on a natural material. For me I am passionate about classic fishing literature and it helps me to connect. For me, fishing is an escape from the humdrum of everyday life, its something real and tangible.

As a teacher, it never ceases to amaze me how tackle conscience kids are - in particular the Carp anglers. Its all about the label, matching rods, pods, alarms, bollies etc.......... You won't get a matching set of cane rods, they almost have a Stradivaries quality.

Its a statement of rebelion against the over comercialisation of the gentle art. Caught loads of nice fish on both carbon fibre, glass fibre - (back in the day), and now cane. Never once have I felt compromised as I choose the rod that most suits my mood or needs.

I suppose a cane rod is like having an organic rod. Thing is though...cane just isn't as good as carbon in reality. Carbon is much lighter, stronger and doesn't get saggy or aquire a set. I have been tempted to buy a cane rod in the past but then reality hit home so I think I'll be sticking with my carbon rods.

 

[guest61]

I get great pleasure from using cane rods - it does add a dimension of spirituality - I know, WTF.

Yes indeed - WTF?

It obviously works for you, (I've seen the cover of the Anglers Mail). Great photo, is there a story to this capture?

Mark

 

[chav professor]

Mark,

The story is single maggot fished to 1lb14oz line, size 18 hook, with a BB shot about 4ft from the hook to allow the bait to act as naturally as possible but still cast it out. I like to think its akin to freelining a maggot.

The centre pin reel is CRITICAL in my mind as I can give line as freely as i want and check the line gently. the trick to using light line for chub is that the biggies to not struggle as much as you may think so long as you don't force the issue. You let the fish do what it wants. By applying GENTLE pressure the fish will swim upstream (no dought to alleviate the pressure-rather than increase it).

Fish over 4lb almost appear confused and unaware of their predicament - smaller fish dart around, hit the nearest weedbed and smash you up. If you use 6lb line you won't get bites in clear water (unless stalking with large baits - lobs etc, when they don't seem to mind). Also, when using stouter tackle, you give the fish the 'handle' to stop it reaching the far bank snag - they will pull back then!!!!!

Give it a try - In no way would using a carbon rod given me any advatage on playing the fish. It's additional weight is not a hinderence because on this particular session I spent over an hour feeding the fish to gain their confidence. Only had my rod in hand for about 5 minutes... the fish was landed in less than 2 mins. The Avon rod i use has a a nice soft action for this type of technique -But i've had carp to 18lb on this rod and that is where you appreciate its progressively steely power. Cane is deceptive!!!!!

Kind regards,

Christian (Chav)

 

[Andrew Macfarlane]

I can just see me tackling my local river with a cane rod. Since the river mostly consists of fast runs, boulders, plunge pools and lots of jumping from rock to rock and/or wading and the fact there's shrubbery, trees, fences, dykes and all manner of hazards, the safety of the rod is secondary. In fact, over the years, I've probably smashed the tip off half a dozen rods, just watching where I was going.

I'll stick to fairly inexpensive carbon.

 

[nick dv]

Cane is deceptive!!!!!

That's what my old headmaster used to say!!!

Cheers, Nick

 

[chav professor]

I can just see me tackling my local river with a cane rod. Since the river mostly consists of fast runs, boulders, plunge pools and lots of jumping from rock to rock and/or wading and the fact there's shrubbery, trees, fences, dykes and all manner of hazards, the safety of the rod is secondary. In fact, over the years, I've probably smashed the tip off half a dozen rods, just watching where I was going.

I'll stick to fairly inexpensive carbon.

Its no ones job to convert - just as i posted earlier, choose the appropriate tool and all that mallarky!

I love my carbon rods too!!! It's always in the back of your mind that cane can be damaged by abuse. You get used to playing fish through a protracted fight by reversing the rod (playing the rod - reel up) to evenly play the rod.

Hassel I know - but I love it..... looks great on pics/portriats too....

 

[George387]

For 50 ripp's i'd use a tomato stick n'all

lol the pleasure is all mine mate, as i say Ive had a year of cane now and its pleasurable for me than my carbon but I do love my carbon rods too without doubt but for now Im sticking with my cane, never restored it for nothing and to sit and be looked at...lol

 

[mitron]

centre pin reels

Does anyone own any of the okuma range of pins?

 

[stikflote]

yes i own an Okuma sheffield ,

and yes it an extremely good reel

 

[mitron]

centre pin reels

cheers stikflote i quite like the sheffield too the kennett looks the mutts nuts

 

[S-Kippy]

The Kennet is nobbut a Sheffield with a line guard.Some people like line guards and others [most ?] dont. I have a Sheffield...its a terrific reel and I wouldn't swap it for a Kennet.

 

[hooklineand sinker]

Bought a Sheffield about a month ago only had the chance to use it once or twice before the big freeze, beginning to wonder if I have bought a dog, spin time with a good flick about 30 seconds . Noticed some members saying there reel spins for two minuets but not sure if this has any bearing on reel preformance or is it about bragging rights ?

 

[Ray Daywalker Clarke]

How long a pin spins has got nothing to do with the way it performs.

As long as the line pulls off the reel easy when trotting then it's fine.

There is a test you can try.

Set the pin up on a rod, as if you were fishing, when the line is through the guides, put on a stick float 4x no 4, should do it.

Then add one no 4 shot, reel the float so it's a couple of feet from the rod tip, then see if the weight of the float pulls the line from the pin, if not add another shot, and try again, by the time you get to the weight of the float, the float should be pulling the line from the reel.

If the float pulls off line after 2 or 3 shot that is fine, if it takes more than 4 x no 4, don't worry, it's a new reel and sometimes pins take a little time to bed in and run more freely, but to be honest, you want it running smooth from new.


Hope this helps.

 

[S-Kippy]

Spin time is a bit of a red herring in performance terms other than to make you feel good but it can [I say can not does] indicate that all is not quite right. A reel that spins freely for 30 seconds ought to fish perfectly well but its what force/weight it requires to overcome the start up inertia that really matters. If there was owt seriously wrong you'd hear it...I think these are sealed bearing reels but it might be a bit dry or just a slightly below par example ? I've not heard a bad word about the Sheffield from anybody that's got one so the build/quality control is pretty good. They're not cheap so if you're not happy take/send it back. Any decent supplier ought to be prepared to exchange it.

Ray beat me to it. That's what I meant about start up inertia. If it does that OK then its fine...if it needs loads of weight before it moves then something's not right.

 

[mitron]

centre pin reels

cheers for the info lads im a novice with pins so any info i will take on board