Light and smaller rod

[hammer_jamie]

Currently I have a 12ft 2.5lb carp rod, Find it quite heavy and to long.

I already know I'm going to be spending a lot of time on a coarse lake so I would like something lighter for float fishing and smaller then 12ft.

What can you all recommend

 

[kenpm]

What is generally described as a "Pellet Waggler" rod of 10' or 11' usually two piece should do the job,much lighter than a carp rod with a lot more rings to prevent lighter line sticking to the blank when wet.
There is a huge range from £20 Shakespeare Omni models to £100+ Daiwas etc. with plenty around £40 to £60.

 

[robtherake]

If you decide on a pellet rod have a gander at the 11ft Middy Micro Muscle 4GS waggler, currently discounted to about £60. It's light, balanced and powerful, so you can really lean on it, yet it's also reasonably soft in the tip so it's not too fierce for smaller fish. It has a nice short handle that doesn't get in the way and is really well finished and presented, with a matt-finished blank and sober decals. It's recommended for main lines up to 12lb, but I'd say 10lb is more realistic. The downlocking reel seat will also accept a centrepin for some proper fun; not all do. A very nice rod, IMHO, that lives up to the hype. The ad that I've linked to has the rod at £70, but you may get a better deal at your local tackle shop - I did.

http://www.anglingdirect.co.uk/middy-x-flex-4g-micro-muscle-waggler-rod

 

[wanderer]

too long, oh gosh, what are you trying to fish for Jamie, you don't want to buy a short rod, they are used for overgrown areas of lakes possibly with wading involved, the rods these guys are talking about are usually 12 feet, get yourself a light TC Avon rod, should sort what you want at 10 foot.

 

[tigger]

The drennan acolyte in either 11 or 12ft might be worth you looking at. I have the 11ft version and have used it for trotting and float fishing still waters where it was suitable...nice rod!

 

[hammer_jamie]

Mostly silver, I think a 10ft or 11ft should be ok. Just seems a 12ft is quite large for a small lake when i don't even have to cast.

I like the look of avon rods with a cork handle

 

[chrissh]

Sometimes you need a 12-13ft rod on a small lake if there is reeds around the edge of the lake you need the extra length when playing a fish. Or getting a fish out of the reeds

the problem with rods is you start with the rod you think is the only one that you will ever need then a few years later you have 10-15 rod
An Avon rod would be a good choice

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[sam vimes]

What size of fish and is it only for float fishing?
Whilst I have plenty of choice, I wouldn't take an average Avon rod if I were intending to float fish. However, if I was restricted to a single rod that may have to turn its hand to float fishing in some circumstances, I might.

Short float rods are generally restricted to pellet waggler rods these days. However, there is the odd short old style match rod out there still, usually via one of the Pure Fishing brands.
Coarse - Omni Match
Coarse - Beta Match
However, should you expand your fishing horizons a little further, you may well find that a short rod will be much less versatile that one at 12 or 13 feet.

Just be a little wary with pellet waggler rods, they aren't all the same. Some out there are a bit too powerful for out and out silvers fishing, though spot on for commie carp. Buying blind is not really a good idea.

 

[wanderer]

What size of fish and is it only for float fishing?
Whilst I have plenty of choice, I wouldn't take an average Avon rod if I were intending to float fish. However, if I was restricted to a single rod that may have to turn its hand to float fishing in some circumstances, I might.

Short float rods are generally restricted to pellet waggler rods these days. However, there is the odd short old style match rod out there still, usually via one of the Pure Fishing brands.
Coarse - Omni Match
Coarse - Beta Match
However, should you expand your fishing horizons a little further, you may well find that a short rod will be much less versatile that one at 12 or 13 feet.

Just be a little wary with pellet waggler rods, they aren't all the same. Some out there are a bit too powerful for out and out silvers fishing, though spot on for commie carp. Buying blind is not really a good idea.

That is a good post Sam, the Avon rod is a jack of all trades and a master of none, but for what he is seeking , short, capable of float or lead, nothing fits the description better.

 

[The Sogster]

Not sure of your budget but check out the Darent Valley Specialist rods from the Tackle Box.

I have the 11' lightest version. Cracking little rod for around 40 quid. Slightly different to the usual offerings and can be used for float or light leger fishing.

 

[hammer_jamie]

Budget I would say £60 max

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What size of fish and is it only for float fishing?

I think at this place I'm going to become a member at I think biggest fish is around 15lb. Float fishing is what I enjoy and all I've ever known.

Just can't decide what type rod to go for, I just feel 12ft is a tad on the large and a 10/11 would be better and want the rod to be lighter then what I have now.

I appreciate all the responses

 

[robtherake]

Not sure of your budget but check out the Darent Valley Specialist rods from the Tackle Box.

I have the 11' lightest version. Cracking little rod for around 40 quid. Slightly different to the usual offerings and can be used for float or light leger fishing.

Is it well-balanced? What sort of action does it have? Looks like a terrific bargain to me - even comes with a rod and reel sleeve. A pair for less than a ton, an'all.

 

[sam vimes]

I think at this place I'm going to become a member at I think biggest fish is around 15lb. Float fishing is what I enjoy and all I've ever known.

Just can't decide what type rod to go for, I just feel 12ft is a tad on the large and a 10/11 would be better and want the rod to be lighter then what I have now.

I appreciate all the responses

Just about every other type of coarse fishing rod is going to be lighter (in both weight and test curve) than a carp rod. I have fifteen foot plus float rods that feel lighter in hand than the vast majority of carp rods. Carp rods are not meant to be used in hand as a float rod is. A proper float rod is going to feel like a wand by comparison to what you are used to.

Don't worry about the size of the largest fish in the lake, think about the average size of the fish you a likely to catch and the method you intend to use. Just because a rod is intended to be used with lighter lines, smaller hooks/baits and more delicate tactics does not mean that it can't handle bigger fish. Much depends on the skill levels of the individual concerned, but plenty of big fish have been landed on light match rods.

If the average fish is likely to be no more than a couple of pounds, buy an out and out match (float) rod. If the average is likely to be closer to five or six pounds, a pellet waggler rod might be a good idea.

 

[tonybull]

Look on ebay and put in Maver Abyss X Series Match Fishing Rod 10ft, 11ft & 12ft

Ideal for what you want and choice of 10, 11, 12ft and I would go for an 11ft

 

[hammer_jamie]

Have you got that rod yourself Tony?

 

[sumtime]

I have the 13ft Abyss X and for the money it's a decent rod, I've had a few carp on it.

 

[tonybull]

Have you got that rod yourself Tony?

No Jamie, but I do have a few different rods because I do fair bit of match fishing and in that price range there won't be a vast amount of difference between makes ie Daiwa, Maver, Garbolino etc

10ft floats rods will be to short and stiff for you what you want imo

12ft may be a bit long in tight swims imo

Up to you what you buy, but Maver rods ain't bad for the money in the lower budget range and 11ft is ideal if you are fishing Redbridge lakes imo

Mate of mine bought a Maver Genesis Black Ice 2-Piece Match Rod (11ft) for £35 for pellet waggler fishing and it was spot on. Just an example though

 

[hammer_jamie]

I will take all your advice and most are mentioning to go with 11ft.

Decisions decisions... Avon? Waggler? Float

 

[robtherake]

Go down your local shop and wave a few around, Jamie; take your time. Pop a suitable-sized reel on to see how they balance - a top-heavy rod can be tiring to use and impairs both striking and playing. Get someone to hold the tip so you can flex the rod and get a feel for its strength and action and narrow it down after you've had your mitts on a few. What suits one person's style might not suit another, so the recommendations are just a guideline, not gospel.

 

[tonybull]

I will take all your advice and most are mentioning to go with 11ft.

Decisions decisions... Avon? Waggler? Float

Jamie

Get a match or waggler rod there won't be a lot of difference between the two but don't get an Avon type.