They're as soft as anything, these southerners...Limestone, tell them about the time you slept out in torrential rain and gales, with not even a bivvie to protect yourself from the elements...now that's what I call hard...Ok, so you were in Wigan General for 6 months recovering from hypothermia, but in my books you're a hard northerner, who doesn't need soft southern things such as bivvies, bedchairs and pillows...