For a few yards more.....

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Ron Troversial Clay

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Absolutley right Jeff. They also use these methods in Oz and NZ.

But you need a good land breeze which flattens the surf and takes the kite or balloon out.

I watched one bloke once on the KwaZulu Natal coast send a big deadbait out for a shark with a balloon. When it got to the spot, he took out a .243 with scope and shot the balloon.

I guess they wouldn't allow that in England.
 
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Phil & Jo Hyde

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It strikes me you're all getting off the original thread, If any of you would like to learn how to cast a long way effortlessly, as far as i can Find I am the only Governing body qualified and licensed angling and casting coach in the U.K. specialising in long range surfcasting. My best pupils are Mike Birks, who is a current England International with a best recorded cast of 301 yards, and Paul Baker, who during trials of a prototype Conoflex Zest put a 150g (5 3/8oz) lead 289 yards plus the leader. Me - I'm getting too old, but I did manage 271 yards earlier this year with a 150g, measured by two of my current learners, and yes there was a tail wind around force three. Almost anyone can be coached up to their physical limit, which is usually around the 160-185 yard region. Beyond that limit casting becomes a mental game. Again, forget sledgehammer, or use it for driving tentpegs in...it has no place in scientific surfcasting.

Phil Hyde MIScT, Dip. Sci. Tech.
 
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jason fisher

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by the way what's all them letters.

i recognised dphil. Phd, MSci.Msc, Ma ,and quite a few others but not them.
i've even got some after my name but i don't bother using em, tey're all a bit pretentious when they don't relate to the subject you're talking about.
 
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Phil & Jo Hyde

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perhaps you should look at beach casting on google my sceptical friend!

Philthefish BA, MSC (Bachelor of 'ardbacks, master soft crabber)
 
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jason fisher

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i'm not sceptical i'm inquisitive (or should that be nosey), i didn't recognise the letters that's all and wondered what they were.
 
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Frothey

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jason has a fear of the unknown....it came about after he caught a dayglo chub......

cheers phil ;)
 
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All this fuss cos Frothey won't walk round the other side! :)
 
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Phil & Jo Hyde

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perhaps you should look at beach casting on google my sceptical friend!

Philthefish BA, MSC (Bachelor of 'ardbacks, master soft crabber)
 
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Phil & Jo Hyde

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Oops, I wondered what that button did (looking for the "ANY" key)
Crabmaster.
 
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jason fisher

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that's a novel one, most people manage to post the same thing twice straight away never seen it that far apart before.
or in my case i post stuff then it completely disappears i reckon grahams got it in for me.
 
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Phil & Jo Hyde

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As a matter of interest, the finest fixed - spool reels I have experience of are the Van Stahl series and the Fin - Nor Lite and Ahab series. These are designed to handle Tarpon in the 150+ pounds area, yet are no bigger than a 4500 Shimano Baitrunner. The drag on these reels is ultrasmooth and does not start giving line with the usual jerk (on the line, not the owner!)Van Stahls are totally saltwaterproof and COSTLY, the Fin - Nors are no more than Diamanos to buy. My 4000 lite landed a stingray est. at 80-85lb on 12lb. powerpro with a 30lb fluoroleader.They cast well as well.
Crabman
 
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MaNick

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eeeeeek!...

I went and had another look at "the eye" today... great place to practice!.... but the fish in there just aint ready for me yet!!!!....
 
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Frothey

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where do you stand on the big pit / normal size reel thing phil. we're talking joe bloggs here, not pro's. does it make that much difference on, say, a 150yd cast?
 
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Wolfman Woody

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Phil,

Must say the pictures of you aren't all that close-up, but were you on a John Wilson programme once teaching him how to cast?
 
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I recently upgraded from a set of 6010 Bautrunners to the new Daiwa Emcast 5500's. The rods (Bruce Ashby 12' 3.25lb perimeter) and line (12lb Krystonite) have remained unchanged, but i find that i can now cast further, and with less effort. I can now reach a set of bars on one of my local pits that i am told is at 140yards, whereas i couldn't before.
Interestingly, with the old reels, the cast would start out fine, and then taper off dramatically as the spool emptied. This happened with both the new Krystonite & the trusty Daiwa sensor, leading me to believe that either the line becomes more 'bedded down' the further you get into a smaller spool, or that it was simply catching the lip of the spool more.
Either way i can still cast further with the big pits..
 
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Cakey

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Balance yourself
Aim
Inhale
Take a look around (make sure no one looking)
Bring yourself together
Only launch when your happy
And go.....
Then reel in and try again !
 
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